That's because the going rate for broad spectrum removal - even bounce - is closer to the 3 mana that Otawara, Soaring City typically costs (though it also will often cost 1 or 2)...and because it can be played from the graveyard and loam looped. Creature removal is a helluva lot worse than things that stop artifact/enchantment combos. And let's not forget that it can bounce your own stuff too, which is also superb (making a buttload of infinite combos work).TheGildedGoose wrote: ↑3 weeks agoYour argument was that four mana was a lot for a removal spell stapled to a land. Otawara is a four mana removal spell stapled to a land and is a near staple. I 100% concede that Fell Mire isn't on the same level as Otawara, but if your only arguments boil down to "it isn't as good as other cards that are better," that doesn't say much about the quality of the card itself, only that it's not as good as others. Imperial Seal isn't as good as Vampiric Tutor, but you still play both.
It's not going to break the format wide open, no more so than Boseiju, Who Endures did, but I'm genuinely shocked as to how cold people are on these.
My main argument with it is that it has the dubious honor of being in a color where the mono decks don't want it cos Cabal Coffers is the best thing to be doing, and 3+ color decks have options that come first, so it's going to be played heavily in 2 color black decks. Its mana cost pushes the
I don't hink it's bad, I just think it'll see a lot less play than you think. 3 life is also not nothing and it stacks up when you're on Agadeem's Awakening // Agadeem, the Undercrypt (Which, seriously, is so much better most of the time :D) and Sea Gate Restoration // Sea Gate, Reborn and so on.
Another thing I'll say is "it isn't as good as other cards that are better" is an argument that means a lot when you're talking about "mana sources that produces only " because that's a lot different than "cards that do the actual best thing in the entire format, like Vampiric Tutor" :D
There's a lot less room in a deck for mono black producing lands than tutors, and there's a lot less room in a deck for removal spells than ramp spells, say.