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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

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Reprieve is effectively a white Remand. I assume that has some implications, given that the set is going to be Modern-legal. At the very least, it's a nice addition to white's toolbox, which is currently pretty light on stack interaction. (also: Sunforger)
Preventing your own spell from being countered by blue player is also another nice side effect.

Do they ceremonially destroy the printer of The One Ring, like they did with the 1996 World Champion?
No, the printer is the only way to destroy the one ring.
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Post by DirkGently » 1 year ago

@materpillar i believe the one one ring is in collector boosters only, so prerelease is not possible

@Dunadain interesting, I hadn't thought about it but you might be right. Makes a decent replacement for Pulse of the Fields. Hmm.
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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

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@Dunadain interesting, I hadn't thought about it but you might be right. Makes a decent replacement for Pulse of the Fields. Hmm.
Hehe, I've been looking for a replacement for pulse for sometime, ideally a land, but Sapseep Forest is far too little, and difficult to enable. So that's where my mind immediately went when I saw The Shire.
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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

Considering they made a new card for the one ring, and they have MULTIPLE Sol Ring reprints in the set I kind of wish the Sol Ring's were the OTHER rings in LOTR

Obviously, 19 reprints, each of rings that we know barely anything about. would be ridiculous, but we could have:

One of the "Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky" with some art of Galadriel.
One of the "Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone" with... Thrain I guess? doesn't help that all of these got destroyed or taken by Sauron eventually, but still, and
One of the "Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die" which could be a picture of a Nazgul, with a hand reaching out, the ring on it's finger clearly visual.

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Post by TheAmericanSpirit » 1 year ago

Dunadain wrote:
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So yeah, wizards, if you want to hire me, I work cheap.
If you're good at something, never do it for cheap.
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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

TheAmericanSpirit wrote:
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Dunadain wrote:
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.

So yeah, wizards, if you want to hire me, I work cheap.
If you're good at something, never do it for cheap.
hehe, they just have to offer more than I'm making now.

Though I can't complain, coming from part-time jobs in the food industry I feel positively wealthy at my new job.
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Post by DirkGently » 1 year ago

@Dunadain I'm confused, isn't that basically what they did with the numbered sol ring reprints? Except all the numbers are multiplied by 100, presumably so a few normal people get them.
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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

DirkGently wrote:
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@Dunadain I'm confused, isn't that basically what they did with the numbered sol ring reprints? Except all the numbers are multiplied by 100, presumably so a few normal people get them.
Maybe I don't understand how this willy Wonka ring is working then xd
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Dunadain wrote:
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Maybe I don't understand how this willy Wonka ring is working then xd
Explanation
There's one special alt-art version of The One Ring in an English-language collector booster somewhere.
There are also a number of alt-art versions of Sol Ring in collector boosters - 300/700/900 Elven / Dwarven / Human 'double rainbow' foils, plus another 3k/7k/9k nonfoils.

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Post by DirkGently » 1 year ago

Just realized the "1 of 1" ring has the same art as the regular printing, just mirrored and slightly zoomed in, and with the ring text added on top.
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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

DirkGently wrote:
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Just realized the "1 of 1" ring has the same art as the regular printing, just mirrored and slightly zoomed in, and with the ring text added on top.
just the attention to detail I've come to expect from wizards
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Post by duducrash » 1 year ago

Maro's March of the Machine Teaser
Before previews for March of the Machine officially begin, I thought it would be fun to do another of my Duelist-style teasers where I give tiny hints of things to come. Note that I'm only giving you partial information.
First up, here are some things you can expect:
• Numerous cards that mechanically care about Phyrexians
• A double-faced token (one that transforms)
• A card that costs XUUUU
• A variant of a mechanic returns to a premier set for the first time since it originally appeared
• A legendary creature returns not seen since Homelands
• A creature capable of dealing eleven poison counters
• Some planes show up in card names that have never done so before
• Wrenn returns with a new partner
• Two draft archetypes that have a creature type matters component (one of which is Phyrexians - see above)
• The tenth _____ & _____ sword
Next, here are some rules text that will be showing up on cards:
• "You may cast spells with flash or flying from the top of your library."
• "an Aura, God or Demigod card"
• "where X is the excess damage dealt this way."
• "This spell can't be copied."
• "Activate only if you've cast two or more spells this turn."
• "Each player can't cast more than one non-Phyrexian spell each turn."
• "X twice, where X is the number of lands you control."
• "Whenever a permanent you control transforms or a permanent enters the battlefield under your control transformed,"
• "If the opponent protects it, remove a defense counter from it."
• "At the beginning of your upkeep, if you haven't been dealt combat damage since your last turn, you draw a card and you lose 1 life."
Finally, here are some Phyrexians in the set:
• Creature – Phyrexian Bear Rhino
• Creature – Phyrexian Devil
• Creature – Phyrexian Dog Warrior
• Creature – Phyrexian Jackal
• Creature – Phyrexian Samurai
• Creature – Phyrexian Shade
• Creature – Phyrexian Shark
• Creature – Phyrexian Treefolk
• Creature – Phyrexian Viashino
• Creature – Phyrexian Weird
And some creature type lines of denizens fighting them:
• Creature – Moonfolk Ninja
• Creature – Aetherborn Vampire
• Creature – Fungus Rabbit
• Creature – Dwarf Pilot
• Creature – Raccoon Warrior
• Creature – Goblin Spellshaper
• Creature – Wolverine Dinosaur
• Legendary Creature – Elder Giant Dog
• Legendary Creature – Ape Dinosaur Turtle
• Legendary Creature – Cyclops Homunculus
For answers to these and more, tune into March of the Machine's Debut March 29th at 9:00 am on YouTube and Twitch.

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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

Calling it now, Wrenn and Eight.

Truly, my brain is massive

Edit, Also, the long-awaited final Sword of X and Y! hopefully it's good in Ebondeath, Dracolich.
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duducrash wrote:
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Legendary Creature – Elder Giant Dog
So this is kind of scary, but there are only two Elder Giants, Kroxa and Uro in the game. So it is probably one of those two (or one of its implied siblings) along with Kunoros if we are sticking with the pairs have to be from the same plane.
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• Legendary Creature – Ape Dinosaur Turtle
Probably Kogla and Yidaro
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• Legendary Creature – Cyclops Homunculus
Calling it now, Borborygmos and Fblthp! And it will be glorious.

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Guardman wrote:
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duducrash wrote:
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Legendary Creature – Elder Giant Dog
So this is kind of scary, but there are only two Elder Giants, Kroxa and Uro in the game. So it is probably one of those two (or one of its implied siblings) along with Kunoros if we are sticking with the pairs have to be from the same plane.
duducrash wrote:
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• Legendary Creature – Ape Dinosaur Turtle
Probably Kogla and Yidaro
duducrash wrote:
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• Legendary Creature – Cyclops Homunculus
Calling it now, Borborygmos and Fblthp! And it will be glorious.
Think you are right on with your pairings - those all make the most sense to me too. I do suspect it'll be Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger + Kunoros, Hound of Athreos as a Mardu card instead of Uro + Kunoros hemming in on Atraxa's territory though.

Also the only name that works for me is Sword of Secrets and Lies, and my day will be immeasurably ruined if they call it literally anything else.

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Post by Sporegorger_Dragon » 1 year ago

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A double-faced token (one that transforms)
Wait, WAIT.

Custom Card forums barely even broached this.

Could it be transforming Werewolf tokens?
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Post by Hermes_ » 1 year ago

duducrash wrote:
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• A legendary creature returns not seen since Homelands
Well that's a short list to look over

https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Sear ... .aspx?set=[%22Homelands%22]&type=%2B[Legendary]
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Wren & Worldtree ?

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Sporegorger_Dragon wrote:
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duducrash wrote:
1 year ago
A double-faced token (one that transforms)
Wait, WAIT.

Custom Card forums barely even broached this.

Could it be transforming Werewolf tokens?
Could be corrupted citziens? Makes sense, right?

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Post by toctheyounger » 1 year ago

Hermes_ wrote:
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duducrash wrote:
1 year ago

• A legendary creature returns not seen since Homelands
Well that's a short list to look over

https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Sear ... .aspx?set=[%22Homelands%22]&type=%2B[Legendary]
YES NEW Joven.

Jk, it's almost certainly Autumn Willow. And that's only because the Baron got a reprint in Commander Legends.
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Post by Hermes_ » 1 year ago

toctheyounger wrote:
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Hermes_ wrote:
1 year ago
duducrash wrote:
1 year ago

• A legendary creature returns not seen since Homelands
Well that's a short list to look over

https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Sear ... .aspx?set=[%22Homelands%22]&type=%2B[Legendary]
YES NEW Joven.
I actually thought it might be Joven due to the destroy non-creature artifacts
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Post by toctheyounger » 1 year ago

Hermes_ wrote:
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toctheyounger wrote:
1 year ago
Hermes_ wrote:
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Well that's a short list to look over

https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Sear ... .aspx?set=[%22Homelands%22]&type=%2B[Legendary]
YES NEW Joven.
I actually thought it might be Joven due to the destroy non-creature artifacts
Honestly, it's really hard to pick a legend from that set that isn't eminently underwhelming to see again.
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Post by Dunadain » 1 year ago

I anybody else really stumped on the flavour of Frodo, Sauron's Bane? Why does he have lifelink? Why does he make your opponents lose the game? Why is getting tempted by the ring a good thing? Why is he Orzhov? Did Wizards read the same LOTR that I did?

Honestly, come to think of it, this card would make so much more sense if it was Sauron, sure it would be weird for Sauron to be a one drop, but this card mechanically looks more like Sauron then Frodo.
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Post by pokken » 1 year ago

Dunadain wrote:
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I anybody else really stumped on the flavour of Frodo, Sauron's Bane? Why does he have lifelink? Why does he make your opponents lose the game? Why is getting tempted by the ring a good thing? Why is he Orzhov? Did Wizards read the same LOTR that I did?

Honestly, come to think of it, this card would make so much more sense if it was Sauron, sure it would be weird for Sauron to be a one drop, but this card mechanically looks more like Sauron then Frodo.
It's a crappy card with crappy flavor and likely an extremely parasitic mechanic, which makes me a bit sad :P

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