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I'm still gonna play it in my Talrand, Sky Summoner deck, because i'm a weakling.
Beating out Sisay, Weatherlight Captain is like asking for a Simic legend to beat out Tatyova, Benthic Druid. That's how you get Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait.BeneTleilax wrote: ↑3 years agoEsika seems like a solid addition to 5-color legends, though unlikely to ever beat out Sisay.
Sheldon-"The secret of this format is in not breaking it. "
The prismatic bridge is better than 5-color Sisay at cheating in cards with high CMC, and doesn't require a 5 mana investment investment per turn to put a card into play.BeneTleilax wrote: ↑3 years agoEsika seems like a solid addition to 5-color legends, though unlikely to ever beat out Sisay.
Amusing, but original Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger definitely did not cost 5.
You know, unless you're specifically looking to go infinite with Sisay, Weatherlight Captain and Jegantha, the Wellspring, I actually think the two are probably about on par. Definitely builds, too, since this new one lets you cheat out expensive stuff.BeneTleilax wrote: ↑3 years agoEsika seems like a solid addition to 5-color legends, though unlikely to ever beat out Sisay.
My complaint is that it's the way the color pie is enforced. It's a bit like for Blue, their restriction (blue can't "kill" permanents only steal, bounce, or transform them; blue gets worse creatures than other colors and has to jump through hoops for its best ones) is enforced as "you can't go 60 miles in this zone - 61, 62, 90, that's all fine, but you can't go 60". For white (and to a lesser extent, red), their restrictions (problems with card flow, emphasis on smaller creatures joining together, and for red inability to touch enchantments) are enforced as "you can't go any speed higher than 60", which is much more limiting. Blue can't kill creatures - but it can exile them as part of a transform effect, or outright steal them. Red can't kill enchantments - at all, ever, Chaos Warp is a break, anything even remotely in the ballpark of enchantment removal is a break.Wallycaine wrote: ↑3 years agoI deeply appreciate the lines of complaint that go "I'm going to outline precisely the reasons why this is completely in color pie for blue, but once I've done that, I'll ignore all that and complain about how it clearly represents bias, despite having literally just established why it is okay." Blue gets to transform things. Things include artifacts. Beast Within continues to represent a far more massive color pie break than Ravenform or anything even vaugely resembling Ravenform.Hawk wrote: ↑3 years agoHot garbage seems strong - this is a monoblue, common, exiling Putrefy, with Foretell if you feel like putting it on layaway for later. It is notably a sorcery to Putrefys instant, and I don't think its quite auto-include; I will probably pass on it in most blue decks that also contain Black and/or White, as the glut of instant-speed removal I'll have access to will trump this. But for monoblue, Izzet, Simic, and Temur decks this card feels hard to avoid including as a versatile catch-all answer (the bird is close to irrelevant and much less punishing than the card given to opponents with Reality Shift or even Pongify). I'd wager those decks are targeting a creature or artifact 95% of the time with Beast Within, Chaos Warp, and Imprisoned in the Moon, and again while this is a sorcery it gives a much weaker thing to opponents so I'll be thrilled to run this alongside those staples even though it is on balance "worse" (for the record I don't actually think it is worse than Imprisoned at least).pokken wrote: ↑3 years ago
Well to be fair boros is getting card draw and ramp. And that blue artifact removal is hot garbage. And Blue has always had transmuting effects (e.g. Reality Shift Pongify and interacted with artifacts. Seems fine to me).
If it was an instant it'd be a semi-staple and we'd be maybe more right to be annoyed![]()
It isn't a straight-up color pie break, I know - blue gets to "transform and transmute" cards all the time (see above). Blue has never had a card specifically target artifacts like this, but blue gets to Steal Artifacts and Annul artifacts, so it isn't a "break" to let them transmute an in-play artifact. It is emblematic of the bias WotC seems to show design though - they're willing to follow the letter of the law but not the spirit for blue's supposed weaknesses and color pie restraints, but are hyper-vigilant about the letter and spirit of the law for Boros (and specifically white).
And like BeneTleilax said, commons are a center of gravity so if this is now "fine" for a blue common, it opens the door for something even more bonkers at rare or mythic in a few sets.
It's actually making me wonder if I should start playing Blood Sun in decks. I've sort of been avoiding it since, while not as bad as Blood Moon, is one of those cards people dislike playing against. And I do enjoy playing utility lands myself. But so many powerful utility lands have been printed the last couple of years.BeneTleilax wrote: ↑3 years agoI think as utility lands get better again, we will need to shift the norms around land destruction in this format. Provided that happens, and we get a few more efficient and flexible answers for lands, I think they could be good. Golos decks are going to get steadily stronger though, which is :/
True, but Doubling Season did