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Post by folding_music » 4 weeks ago

(re: Bloodthirster)

nostalgic name for me, this is the Khorne unit I used to confirm that I'm too impatient for model building and painting x3
anyway it has the same cost and theme as Moraug, Fury of Akoum but I bet I can guess who gets used more

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Post by pokken » 4 weeks ago

The number of people merked with Bloodthirster and Xenagos, God of Revels is very high :D

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Post by DirkGently » 4 weeks ago

I only recently realized that bloodthirster doesn't untap your other creatures. Oops.

Anyway pretty nutty card with the right support, but not as crazy as I initially thought it was.

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Post by 3drinks » 4 weeks ago

I like that I can run it outta Kaalia and hit that person again. Finally, another case where "Flameblast Syndrome" works to my benefit.

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Post by 3drinks » 4 weeks ago

Thursday, May 16th 2024; Vault 101: Birthday Party


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Post by DirkGently » 4 weeks ago

In theory it's a fair bit of tempo over three turns, but it's slow and has a ton of deckbuilding and setup cost to really pay you off, plus it's pretty telegraphed. And sagas are unlikely to synergize with the rest of your deck if you're doing some sort of voltron thing, which is what this seems to encourage. So very niche at best imo.
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Post by pokken » 4 weeks ago

Autoattaching equipment effects are strong but always wind up more awkward than people think. Like it takes a board state to line up. Deferring it a turn with the saga is kind of helpful in that respect but the timing still requires you to have a dude out first or be happy attaching to the token.

Overall seems like a cool fairly fun card that probably winds up a lot worse than it sounds. Getting from the bin is nice..

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Post by Dunadain » 4 weeks ago

Pretty weak card

I thought this was a LOTR card for a second, referencing Bilbo's 111 birthday and was trying to figure out the flavor XD.

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Post by Serenade » 4 weeks ago

In my Xavier Sal, Infested Captain deck, I bounce sagas back and forth between chapters. Creating an extra body to sac and having two chapters with the same good effect is always incredible for him. I feel like that deck has a lot of mill, too. Alas, he cannot use this card, so I just get to ponder what could be. Maybe curses...
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Post by Sinis » 3 weeks ago

I think Vault 101 is pretty weak. Equipping things is often an as-needed or on-demand sort of thing, and the timing on this card isn't great. At least it gives you the good grace to put a human out to equip something to, rather than needing you to table this and a creature to realize the full benefit.

Obviously, there are niche cases where it's really good, like Argentum Armor where you cheat some truly enormous costs, but I feel like these are magic xmas land scenarios with cards that are borderline unplayable.

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Post by 3drinks » 3 weeks ago

Idk, I'd jam it into Kellan I think. Seems fine to get my stupid Megaton Hammer onto something of I don't have Puresteel ready. I think people are confusing niche with bad as the two while they may share similarities, are in fact not the same.

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Post by Mookie » 3 weeks ago

Vault 101: Birthday Party looks fine but underwhelming. The floor is pretty bad - a 1/1 and a food token for four mana. The ceiling is pretty high though - recurring two expensive auras or equipments from your graveyard for free is pretty good, and getting a discount on something from hand isn't bad either. I would say my primary concern is the fail rate - how often do you have multiple pieces of equipment in your graveyard? White isn't exactly known for its Entomb effects... and if you are dumping a bunch of stuff in your graveyard to reanimate, you're probably more interested in Dance of the Manse, Open the Vaults, or some other form of mass reanimation.

I could see it in Dogmeat, Ever Loyal, and there are other enablers like Goblin Engineer and equipment-to-hand tutors like Kellan, the Fae-Blooded // Birthright Boon. I don't think I would run it without a lot of expensive equipment and some self-mill though.

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Post by Lifeless » 3 weeks ago

As an old grumpy MTG player a Saga has to blow me out of my seat to make the cut and this ain't it.

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Post by onering » 3 weeks ago

I.like sagas but this seems like crap.

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Post by DirkGently » 3 weeks ago

Okay somehow I didn't realize until just now the staggering coincidence which is that today is actually my birthday xD

I'm 36 btw
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Post by tstorm823 » 3 weeks ago

DirkGently wrote:
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Okay somehow I didn't realize until just now the staggering coincidence which is that today is actually my birthday xD

I'm 36 btw
ew, old
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Post by DirkGently » 3 weeks ago

tstorm823 wrote:
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ew, old
Age has its benefits. Such as buying all the reserved list cards back when they were affordable.
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Post by Lifeless » 3 weeks ago

Can confirm it was cool to be buying cards in 1999 other than losing my ass on Sea Drakes.

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Post by 3drinks » 3 weeks ago

Friday, May 17th 2024; Dreadhorde Arcanist|tsr



Still waiting to cast an Ancestral Vision off this.

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Post by Dunadain » 3 weeks ago

Not actually a broken card, Brainstorm and Ponder are broken cards and Dreadhorde just exacerbated it.

Outside of Legacy and Vintage, I actually think it's pretty cool.

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Post by Toshi » 3 weeks ago

3drinks wrote:
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Loved this in Zada, Hedron Grinder, before they printed a billion absurd cards to run instead.

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Post by pokken » 3 weeks ago

I always think this card is going to be awesome but then it never lines up. I think I'd only want to run it if your commander actively provides pump, because I'm always missing a piece.

Even in Xenagos, God of Revels the pump to 2 was not reliable enough and my build runs *tons* of <3cmc instants/sorceries. The magical christmas of hitting Farseek was just not good enough :D

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Post by Sinis » 3 weeks ago

I think Dreadhorde Arcanist is pretty much only for equipment decks. You can get a cheeky Sword to Plowshares or similar without any help, but I think there's room for it to be better. Honourable mention for Glamdring and Runechanter's Pike.

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Post by 3drinks » 3 weeks ago

pokken wrote:
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I always think this card is going to be awesome but then it never lines up. I think I'd only want to run it if your commander actively provides pump, because I'm always missing a piece.

Even in Xenagos, God of Revels the pump to 2 was not reliable enough and my build runs *tons* of <3cmc instants/sorceries. The magical christmas of hitting Farseek was just not good enough :D
Idk, it's been pretty solid out of Torbran with a Gauntlet of Might. Reasonable flashback of a Searing Blood almost akin to a second copy of Sword of Once and Future. Ironically the sword actually enhances the guy, but the guy is cool to just cast another bolt or chain lightning honestly.

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Post by Mookie » 3 weeks ago

Dreadhorde Arcanist is a sweet card. It's a bit tricky to make work in EDH because most decks don't run a large number of one mana spells. It is possible to pack your deck with Ponder / Brainstorm / Preordain / Lightning Bolt... but you're never going to reach the density you can in Legacy (and the card quality once you get out of the top 10 or so will also drop significantly). That said, I do like the idea of it in decks like Narset, Enlightened Exile that can pump it - if you can get it up to 3+ power, the ability to flash back more expensive stuff (and trigger prowess again) is quite nice.

I'm not sure if it beats other recursive options in a vacuum, but it is cheap - two mana for a card that lets you cast stuff for free is pretty nuts. Wildfire Devils and Mysterious Stranger are two similar options I'll call out, but they're pretty inconsistent.

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