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I was going to say that I'd consider a couple of the Bobbleheads for Osgir, but then reread them, and realized the activation costs aren't the same for each. 5 mana to draw 2 cards (assuming I've copied Intelligence Bobblehead) is much too expensive.
Sefris, Varina, Korvold Lands Ho!, Queen Marchesa, Aikido/Goad, Kadena, Tuvasa, Tymna & Tevesh Cleric Tribal, Ghired,
Prosper, Captain N'ghatrod, Sméagol, Frodo & Sam, Henzie, Sauron, the Dark Lord, Eowyn, Shieldmaiden, Galadriel of Lothlorien
Prosper, Captain N'ghatrod, Sméagol, Frodo & Sam, Henzie, Sauron, the Dark Lord, Eowyn, Shieldmaiden, Galadriel of Lothlorien
Wait, so we can have an ability that triggers whenever a creature evolves???
The wording on Sharp-Eyed Rookie is even more stupid now that I know that.
The wording on Sharp-Eyed Rookie is even more stupid now that I know that.
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Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
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Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
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C.A.M.P. is interesting, it costs 6 mana to get going (albeit split between two turns), which is a lot, but then it's a draw engine that also buffs a creature.
The first extra card each turn costs you 0 mana, but then you can fortify a different, untapped land to get a new junk token for 3 mana each.
It's clunky, but between the ability to be a late game mana sink, and provide some reasonable buffs, It's probably worth a shot in Ebondeath, Dracolich.
Junk tokens and interactive spells aren't the best match though.
The first extra card each turn costs you 0 mana, but then you can fortify a different, untapped land to get a new junk token for 3 mana each.
It's clunky, but between the ability to be a late game mana sink, and provide some reasonable buffs, It's probably worth a shot in Ebondeath, Dracolich.
Junk tokens and interactive spells aren't the best match though.
All cards are bad if you try hard enough.
Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
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Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
Other: Ruhan, Zask, Kellan, Liesa, Galadriel, Orca, Sauron, Thantis, Rukarumel, Sisay, Stickfingers, Safana, Thantis, Dihada
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same thought why on earth anyone not pick draw 4 cards ability (3 from the ability at least 1 from draw step)DirkGently wrote: ↑3 months agoYeah that card is pretty gnarly. Honestly wtf is the point of the other mode lol, why would anyone choose that? I guess if someone else has gone mega-wide and you're holding a fog?Toshi wrote: ↑3 months agoStruggle for Project Purity looks wild if you choose "Brotherhood" - which you propably should.
and Radstag is just ridiculous there's a truckload of token producing cards that trigger it.
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Oh man when 3drinks sees that Hail Caesar deck he's gonna fall in love all over again. 🥰😂
Meanwhile me: oh great, get ready for more 12min Salvaging Station turns. 🙄😐💀
Meanwhile me: oh great, get ready for more 12min Salvaging Station turns. 🙄😐💀
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Maybe in 1v1 where you're on the receiving end of combat pressure... maybe. Rad only mills on opponent's turn so not even Captain N'ghathrod can steal things with it.DirkGently wrote: ↑3 months agoYeah that card is pretty gnarly. Honestly wtf is the point of the other mode lol, why would anyone choose that? I guess if someone else has gone mega-wide and you're holding a fog?Toshi wrote: ↑3 months agoStruggle for Project Purity looks wild if you choose "Brotherhood" - which you propably should.
Power Fist seems good for my Legolas, Counter of Kills voltron deck.
Current Decks
Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
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Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
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Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
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Oh god, we're in the era of art paranoia now. I wish I wasn't so bad at drawing hands...duducrash wrote: ↑3 months agoSierra, Nuka's Biggest Fan art looks like AI, her thumb is a bit weird
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Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
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Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Yeah, I got a little excited about the rad/mill stuff here for Captain, and although plan A is kill everyone out, mill that specifically dodges Cap's trigger isn't desirable.Cyberium wrote: ↑3 months agoMaybe in 1v1 where you're on the receiving end of combat pressure... maybe. Rad only mills on opponent's turn so not even Captain N'ghathrod can steal things with it.DirkGently wrote: ↑3 months agoYeah that card is pretty gnarly. Honestly wtf is the point of the other mode lol, why would anyone choose that? I guess if someone else has gone mega-wide and you're holding a fog?Toshi wrote: ↑3 months agoStruggle for Project Purity looks wild if you choose "Brotherhood" - which you propably should.
Sefris, Varina, Korvold Lands Ho!, Queen Marchesa, Aikido/Goad, Kadena, Tuvasa, Tymna & Tevesh Cleric Tribal, Ghired,
Prosper, Captain N'ghatrod, Sméagol, Frodo & Sam, Henzie, Sauron, the Dark Lord, Eowyn, Shieldmaiden, Galadriel of Lothlorien
Prosper, Captain N'ghatrod, Sméagol, Frodo & Sam, Henzie, Sauron, the Dark Lord, Eowyn, Shieldmaiden, Galadriel of Lothlorien
Wow, Vault 12: The Necropolis is outstanding for Xavier Sal, Infested Captain. That thing checks all the boxes.
I also feel like we should be nabbing any good mutants...before the Marvel/X-Men stuff arrives next year.
I also feel like we should be nabbing any good mutants...before the Marvel/X-Men stuff arrives next year.
Mirri, Cat Warrior counts as a Cat Warrior.
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The Master, Transcendent thats a decent theft theme commander
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So depending on how the deck works the master could be a upgrade for that deck.
So depending on how the deck works the master could be a upgrade for that deck.
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Ah ha. Not just station, but trading post|brc too. And urza's saga, voltaic key|usg, dang for not knowing anything about Fallout, I think I talked myself into the deck. Provided it's not some $60 gouge.aliciaofthevast wrote: ↑3 months agoOh man when 3drinks sees that Hail Caesar deck he's gonna fall in love all over again. 🥰😂
Meanwhile me: oh great, get ready for more 12min Salvaging Station turns. 🙄😐💀
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In case anyone missed it, Mariposa Military Base is a strictly-better Arch of Orazca. So Phelddagrif getting more UB cards. I guess I'm happy.
Yay.
Yay.
It would be, except that you can reanimate from your own graveyard. So there's not much incentive to rely on other people.CommanderMaster999 wrote: ↑2 months agoThe Master, Transcendent thats a decent theft theme commander
Perm Decks
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
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Ok the mutant precon is defintely the chase one
They reprinted Branching Evolution again along with Guardian Project and Inexorable Tide
They reprinted Branching Evolution again along with Guardian Project and Inexorable Tide
Mmmm, good catch. It's a pretty minor upgrade, but it is technically better. The self-mill can also be relevant for some decks. That said, I think I'm going to take this as an opportunity to try to find a different alternative instead - Minas Tirith and War Room are both reasonable options. Hmmm...DirkGently wrote: ↑2 months agoIn case anyone missed it, Mariposa Military Base is a strictly-better Arch of Orazca. So Phelddagrif getting more UB cards. I guess I'm happy.
Contaminated Drink makes me wonder how I value rad counters. Self-mill is good, life loss is bad. Is the former worth the latter? It's essentially free bonus cards in Kess, so it seems like an upgrade over Pull from Tomorrow, but that deck also puts a fair amount of pressure on its life total. Probably worth testing just based on rate alone. Not sure how I feel about it in Tasigur / Sharuum though - they do have graveyard synergies, but random mill isn't as immediately valuable.
Tato Farmer is a Ramunap Excavator that doesn't take a land drop. Less consistent though, unless you're aggressively milling yourself (or your opponents).
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i made a stupid joke about this ages back
was not prepared for leonardo da vinci to be 3/3 though
was not prepared for leonardo da vinci to be 3/3 though
I think this thread has aged well lol.
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You'd need a steady supply of Rad counters though. You lose a counter (and 1 life) each time you mill a nonland card via Rad. A win for those who benefit from self-mill, but is it strictly better than Arch?DirkGently wrote: ↑2 months agoIn case anyone missed it, Mariposa Military Base is a strictly-better Arch of Orazca. So Phelddagrif getting more UB cards. I guess I'm happy.
Yay.
Enters the battlefield is apparent just "enters" now.
man, rads mill you?? christ that's so strong.
Arch is 5 to draw, and requires the city's blessing to activate. Mariposa is 5 to draw (or less, if you had rad counters), and doesn't have any prerequisites to activate. It also can enter tapped to give you 2 rad counters if you'd like them, which gives you a draw for 3 mana next turn, and 4 mana the turn after. It's better in literally every way.Cyberium wrote: ↑2 months agoYou'd need a steady supply of Rad counters though. You lose a counter (and 1 life) each time you mill a nonland card via Rad. A win for those who benefit from self-mill, but is it strictly better than Arch?DirkGently wrote: ↑2 months agoIn case anyone missed it, Mariposa Military Base is a strictly-better Arch of Orazca. So Phelddagrif getting more UB cards. I guess I'm happy.
Yay.
Enters the battlefield is apparent just "enters" now.
Also, where are you seeing "enters" without "the battlefield"?
Sefris, Varina, Korvold Lands Ho!, Queen Marchesa, Aikido/Goad, Kadena, Tuvasa, Tymna & Tevesh Cleric Tribal, Ghired,
Prosper, Captain N'ghatrod, Sméagol, Frodo & Sam, Henzie, Sauron, the Dark Lord, Eowyn, Shieldmaiden, Galadriel of Lothlorien
Prosper, Captain N'ghatrod, Sméagol, Frodo & Sam, Henzie, Sauron, the Dark Lord, Eowyn, Shieldmaiden, Galadriel of Lothlorien
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