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In earlier days I ran Infest before I got a Mutilate. Nowadays I also use both Deluge and Dead of Winter.
I'll try Inner Demon in a Killian, Ink Duelist deck, but otherwise I am not running this or a Pyroclasm variant in this format.
I'll try Inner Demon in a Killian, Ink Duelist deck, but otherwise I am not running this or a Pyroclasm variant in this format.
Mirri, Cat Warrior counts as a Cat Warrior.
I recently used Black Sun's Zenith for 2, but I don't think I would play infest effects. They're just not all that strong, though I agree that this one is probably strongest.
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It does kill the most common non-clone tokens, mana dorks, and a ton of utility creatures like Mother of Runes, Sylvan Safekeeper, and Waterfront Bouncer. But so can the origknal Infest.DirkGently wrote: ↑3 years agoIt's a good infest, but I don't think I've ever felt like I wanted such a narrow sweeper in my decks. I guess I haven't run the numbers, but I don't think -2 kills enough of the format to make it worthwhile.
And ofc, in black the exile can easily be counterproductive.
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Thursday, April 8th, 2021; True Believer / Aegis of the Gods
We've seen this effect a few times. Is it ever truly worth the card? And I'm not including the elephant in the room or Seht's Tiger since they're at least quite different from these effects, even though they sometimes are used the same.
We've seen this effect a few times. Is it ever truly worth the card? And I'm not including the elephant in the room or Seht's Tiger since they're at least quite different from these effects, even though they sometimes are used the same.
Kaalia HQ Kellan, the Fae-Blooded // Birthright Boon Torbran, Thane of Red Fell Alesha, Who Smiles at Death (Slivers) Trynn, Champion of Freedom & Silvar, Devourer of the Free
No Imperial Mask?
I don't think I get fireballed or duressed enough in this format to use any of these. That could change, but, it just doesn't happen enough currently.
I run Aegis of the Gods sometimes in enchantress as a cheap body with a unique effect, and he's protected my GY at times. He's always my first cut, though (my GY doesn't always need protecting, and that toughness is WEAK).
Playing them signals you are doing something that requires protection. HUGE target. I'm sure we'll get one with flash eventually.
Playing them signals you are doing something that requires protection. HUGE target. I'm sure we'll get one with flash eventually.
Mirri, Cat Warrior counts as a Cat Warrior.
Like Serenade, I have run Aegis in some enchantress decks, and it's been okay, preventing me from the occasional player-targeted effect. I guess it can also be a meta call, like if you know someone in your group loves Mindslaver effects, but I think most of the time in most decks there will be other, better cards more deserving of a card slot.
I have 68 active EDH decks, with more in progress. I don't consider this a problem. Do you?
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I've only played those effects when I wanted to lessen the threat of Tormod's Crypt and friends in my graveyard decks. They weren't stellar then, and they certainly are even less impressive nowadays, with all the global gravehate cards like Ashiok, Dream Render or Soul-Guide Lantern.
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I'd say that's different enough in the broad scope of it's execution such that it's role is definitively different (it protects more than you) from the named cards. (and also I forgot about it 👀).Sinis wrote: ↑3 years agoNo Imperial Mask?
I don't think I get fireballed or duressed enough in this format to use any of these. That could change, but, it just doesn't happen enough currently.
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I have definitely run some of these in the past. I think Aegis of the Gods in my Karador deck because it was something I could tutor easily and it could protect myself from a lot of GY hate.
Otherwise, it is a good way to thwart a storm player as most storm win conditions target players.
These cards are also a big reason to run Zulaport Cutthroat over Blood Artist.
Otherwise, it is a good way to thwart a storm player as most storm win conditions target players.
These cards are also a big reason to run Zulaport Cutthroat over Blood Artist.
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I cut True Believer from my cleric tribal deck, and don't run Aegis of the Gods in Ghen, Arcanum Weaver.
Current Decks
Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
Retired Decks
Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
Retired Decks
Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
These are fine cards but really are a meta call. They are fantastic at what they do, and if you expect to see many decks that attack in that way they are certainly useful, but they can also just be a dead card.
EDH Decklists
Phage | Braids | Kiku | Yawgmoth | Chandra | Jin-Gitaxias | Sakashima the Impostor I Rilsa Rael | Eloise | Killian | Liesa | Nalia de'Arnise | Zara | Kotori | Hanna | Nahiri | Risona | Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Abomination of Llanowar | Pharika | Mina & Denn | Halana & Sakashima | Chromium, The Mutable
Phage | Braids | Kiku | Yawgmoth | Chandra | Jin-Gitaxias | Sakashima the Impostor I Rilsa Rael | Eloise | Killian | Liesa | Nalia de'Arnise | Zara | Kotori | Hanna | Nahiri | Risona | Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Abomination of Llanowar | Pharika | Mina & Denn | Halana & Sakashima | Chromium, The Mutable
True Believer effects are pretty high-variance, IMO. Not because the effects aren't relevant - they certainly come up with a fair amount of regularity. My main critique of them is that they aren't consistently able to stop any given effect. If you're concerned about grave hate, they can stop Tormod's Crypt but not Relic of Progenitus. If you're concerned about being burned out, they can stop Comet Storm but not Earthquake. If you're concerned about curses, they can stop those that are targeted, but not if they're reanimated by Replenish. If you're concerned about aristocrats, they can stop Blood Artist but not Zulaport Cutthroat.
As a result, I generally consider these cards to be more speedbumps than actual protection. Certainly reasonable if you see a lot of Emrakul, the Promised End or other targeted effects in your meta, but otherwise I would pass in favor of a more consistent protection effect. Passable as part of a more comprehensive protection package though.
I will call out Sigarda, Heron's Grace as an option in the command zone, and Witchbane Orb and Orbs of Warding as colorless options.
As a result, I generally consider these cards to be more speedbumps than actual protection. Certainly reasonable if you see a lot of Emrakul, the Promised End or other targeted effects in your meta, but otherwise I would pass in favor of a more consistent protection effect. Passable as part of a more comprehensive protection package though.
I will call out Sigarda, Heron's Grace as an option in the command zone, and Witchbane Orb and Orbs of Warding as colorless options.
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True believer has some dope flavor text at least.
There's no biscuits and gravy in New Zealand.
(Except when DirkGently makes them!)
(Except when DirkGently makes them!)
Rip to Witchbane Orb, unless we were only looking at white cards with that effect.
It's always seemed a little irrelevant, at least in my group. Spells normally end up targeting problematic permanents, not players. Definitely something that could be more or less effective in different pods (in mine, it seems near useless and not worth a slot, in others, it seems like it could be a requirement).
It's always seemed a little irrelevant, at least in my group. Spells normally end up targeting problematic permanents, not players. Definitely something that could be more or less effective in different pods (in mine, it seems near useless and not worth a slot, in others, it seems like it could be a requirement).
Current Decks:
Alesha, Who Smiles at Death EDH
Karlov of the Ghost Council EDH
Sidisi, Brood Tyrant EDH
Edgar Markov EDH
Emmara, Soul of the Accord EDH
Yarok, the Desecrated EDH
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden EDH
Kalamax (No infinites) EDH
Ghalta EDH
Current Projects:
Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa/Silas Renn, Seeker Adept EDH
Neheb, the Eternal EDH
Alesha, Who Smiles at Death EDH
Karlov of the Ghost Council EDH
Sidisi, Brood Tyrant EDH
Edgar Markov EDH
Emmara, Soul of the Accord EDH
Yarok, the Desecrated EDH
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden EDH
Kalamax (No infinites) EDH
Ghalta EDH
Current Projects:
Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa/Silas Renn, Seeker Adept EDH
Neheb, the Eternal EDH
Arasta has been solid in my Gahiji token-swarm deck, where she is played alongside Dragonlair Spider , Both can get out of hand pretty quickly if opponents don't use targeted removal or a board wipe in a timely manner. Solid card.
I have 68 active EDH decks, with more in progress. I don't consider this a problem. Do you?
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I don't have a token based deck anymore but When I was playing Thromok the Insatiable Dragonlair Spider was a midgame MVP, often allowing me to make a very lethal Thromok in a single turn cycle. This would be an auto-include in that deck for sure and I could see including it as a defensive option in many green decks. Certainly a card I need to keep in mind.
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I like chromie a lot more than mox diamond. Early-game, discarding a land can easily make you miss a drop, rendering diamond worthless. Whereas early you've almost always got a nonland to pitch to chromie. And late-game, when spells are crucial, you just don't play it.
I like it most for cmc 2-3 commanders. Once you get to 4 and can accelerate without losing a card, it's less appealing (though still good).
Tbh Gemstone Mine might be better than either. Pitch anything early, or just play as a land late. But all 3 are very common for low-curve decks for me.
I like it most for cmc 2-3 commanders. Once you get to 4 and can accelerate without losing a card, it's less appealing (though still good).
Tbh Gemstone Mine might be better than either. Pitch anything early, or just play as a land late. But all 3 are very common for low-curve decks for me.
Perm Decks
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6