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Announced on Weekly MTG booster packs precorrolated around a theme you mix two 20 card boosters shuffle them together and get 40 card decks. Each booster has a theme. Booster themes include spooky goblin, walls, Phyrexian, vampire. But there are variations in the theme. Eg goblin packs may have different rares. 500 + card set mostly reprint some Core 21 sets. 37 new cards.
1 basic land will have art related to the theme. 46 different themes with 121 variations for example two cat themed boosters and one Phyrexian themed booster. Prerelease one week before M21 prerelease.
ETA: Jumpstart will be on Arena.
Announced on Weekly MTG booster packs precorrolated around a theme you mix two 20 card boosters shuffle them together and get 40 card decks. Each booster has a theme. Booster themes include spooky goblin, walls, Phyrexian, vampire. But there are variations in the theme. Eg goblin packs may have different rares. 500 + card set mostly reprint some Core 21 sets. 37 new cards.
1 basic land will have art related to the theme. 46 different themes with 121 variations for example two cat themed boosters and one Phyrexian themed booster. Prerelease one week before M21 prerelease.
ETA: Jumpstart will be on Arena.
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Another week, another product announcement.
I kind of thought Wizards would see if Unsanctioned sold well before trying the exact same concept again, but here we are.
I kind of thought Wizards would see if Unsanctioned sold well before trying the exact same concept again, but here we are.
Psst, check the second page of Custom Card Contests & Games! Because of the daily contests, a lot of games fall down to there.
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Was there anything mentioned about whether the packs would have foils? That is basically the only thing I would care about for these. And being one week before the next set is (pre) released seems like there isn't much time for people to really do any events with these. I would think most people would just move onto M21.
If they have a Garruk theme, they'll have a Jace theme.Themes range from the familiar ("Garruk") to the curious ("Doctor")
There's a strong chance of some kind of "Sea Monster" theme (krakens? Whelming Wave?)
I would also suspect themes that could tie into Theros as well (Enchantments/Auras matter, etc)
(Plus some small chance for "Planar Themes")
So... almost certainly one of those, a high probability of two, and possibly even all three...
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I'm confused. Are the boosters labelled? Or is it a labelled booster inside an unlabelled booster? Or what?
Perm Decks
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
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I think options 2. Maybe it doesn't even need to be labelled if the theme is evident enoughDirkGently wrote: ↑4 years agoI'm confused. Are the boosters labelled? Or is it a labelled booster inside an unlabelled booster? Or what?
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Maro says: You will have a booster pack. You open it and Inside is twenty cards inside a plastic wrapped brick. You can see a front card which has a picture and tells you the name of the theme and what color(s) it is.
For example, it might show a goblin, say "Goblins", and tell you it's a red deck. That means it will contain red cards, mountains and maybe some generic artifacts that a red deck could play.
You then pick a second booster pack and open it. Its card might say "Phyrexian" and be black. You then can put them together to make a black/red Phyrexisn Goblin deck.
For example, it might show a goblin, say "Goblins", and tell you it's a red deck. That means it will contain red cards, mountains and maybe some generic artifacts that a red deck could play.
You then pick a second booster pack and open it. Its card might say "Phyrexian" and be black. You then can put them together to make a black/red Phyrexisn Goblin deck.
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Ok, so then...I don't get it. I thought the idea was that you'd be able to make a phyrexian cat deck (or whatever) by mixing those together. Which, I guess, you could, but you'd have to keep opening boosters until you got the right packs, then combine them together?
Having them be totally random seems better for having some sort of semi-limited environment, but it also kinda seems like it defeats the purpose of providing a way for people to make fast decks around things they like. It's basically just sealed without the deckbuilding.
also:
WotC: And it'll have exclusive cards not found in any other products! These cards will be legal for commander!
Me: eyes roll out of their sockets, across the floor, out of the room, down the road, and into the sea.
Having them be totally random seems better for having some sort of semi-limited environment, but it also kinda seems like it defeats the purpose of providing a way for people to make fast decks around things they like. It's basically just sealed without the deckbuilding.
also:
WotC: And it'll have exclusive cards not found in any other products! These cards will be legal for commander!
Me: eyes roll out of their sockets, across the floor, out of the room, down the road, and into the sea.
Perm Decks
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
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This pretty much sounds like WotC's answer to Key Forge. Show up, buy some packs, start playing the game.
So... Have to wait and see if there will be some angels in there.
EDIT: in case anyone was wondering, the goblin is Volley Veteran. I think the doggos card is either new or has new art... Or for the life of me can't find a card with that art.
This said, I can't really shake the feeling of having seen that art already.
EDIT: in case anyone was wondering, the goblin is Volley Veteran. I think the doggos card is either new or has new art... Or for the life of me can't find a card with that art.
This said, I can't really shake the feeling of having seen that art already.
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So... with 46 themes and 37 new cards, presuming 1 new card per theme, there will be 9 themes without new cards...
mmmh unrealistic honestly. Weird themes like dogs and unicorn probably will need 2 cards so...
my guess is around 10 themes with 2 new cards, 16 with only 1 new card and 21 themes without new cards
mmmh unrealistic honestly. Weird themes like dogs and unicorn probably will need 2 cards so...
my guess is around 10 themes with 2 new cards, 16 with only 1 new card and 21 themes without new cards
Either the new cards are shared between themes or some of the themes need no new cards at all.
Supposing one of the themes is centered around lifegain, would it really need new cards to work? I mean, there is plenty of cards already that capitalize on that mechanics both at lower and higher rarities from Ajani's Pridemate to Resplendent Angel or Evra, Halcyon Witness.
Unicorns on the other hand don't really have a "tribal payoff" to date and if we have to take the article at face value, we can expect a new tribal pay-off for them at mythic.
Supposing one of the themes is centered around lifegain, would it really need new cards to work? I mean, there is plenty of cards already that capitalize on that mechanics both at lower and higher rarities from Ajani's Pridemate to Resplendent Angel or Evra, Halcyon Witness.
Unicorns on the other hand don't really have a "tribal payoff" to date and if we have to take the article at face value, we can expect a new tribal pay-off for them at mythic.
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I actually didn't catch that planeswalkers could be a theme as well. Interesting. I figured the same old boring and traditional Merfolk would represent blue here. But if there's a possibility for more interesting themes to me like krakens and Jace enchantments, count me in for themFeyd_Ruin wrote: ↑4 years agoIf they have a Garruk theme, they'll have a Jace theme.Themes range from the familiar ("Garruk") to the curious ("Doctor")
There's a strong chance of some kind of "Sea Monster" theme (krakens? Whelming Wave?)
I would suspect themes that could tie into Theros as well (Enchantments/Auras matter, etc)
So... almost certainly one of those, a high probability of two, and possibly even all three...
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Since the booster packs for this product are only going to contain 1 basic land each, why not just go the Duel Masters / Kaijudo route and allow mono colored cards to be treated as basic lands but played upside down? If you have multi colored cards why not treat them like ABU duals without the drawback from Shocklands?
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They aren't going to have just 1 basic land. They are going to have 1 basic land with an art theme to match the booster. There will be more basics in a pack.Card Slinger J wrote: ↑4 years agoSince the booster packs for this product are only going to contain 1 basic land each, why not just go the Duel Masters / Kaijudo route and allow mono colored cards to be treated as basic lands but played upside down? If you have multi colored cards why not treat them like ABU duals without the drawback from Shocklands?
Maro also said since the packs are 20 cards and there is a 1 in 3 chance that you get 2 rares, the price will be higher than a standard booster.
Current Commander decks: Zurgo Helmsmasher - Borborgymos Enraged - Elenda, the Dusk Rose - Doran, the Seige Tower - Sliver Overlord - Yarok, the Desecrated - Scion of the Ur-Dragon - Hazoret the Fervent - Purphoros, God of the Forge - Gisela, Blade of Goldnight - Marath, Will of the Wild - Ramos, Dragon Engine - Ruhan of the Fomori - Narset, Enlightened Master - Kokusho, the Evening Star - Mizzix of the Izmagnus - Dragonsoul Knight (Pauper) - Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas (Precon)
Note that if you need to make a functioning 40 cards deck with just 2 boosters the number of lands per booster will probably be 6 to 8 with 8 more likely if they want to keep the 3:2 ratio they push as the baseline for arena decks.ConstantMists wrote: ↑4 years agoThey aren't going to have just 1 basic land. They are going to have 1 basic land with an art theme to match the booster. There will be more basics in a pack.Card Slinger J wrote: ↑4 years agoSince the booster packs for this product are only going to contain 1 basic land each, why not just go the Duel Masters / Kaijudo route and allow mono colored cards to be treated as basic lands but played upside down? If you have multi colored cards why not treat them like ABU duals without the drawback from Shocklands?
Maro also said since the packs are 20 cards and there is a 1 in 3 chance that you get 2 rares, the price will be higher than a standard booster.
Which brings the actual cards in boosters down to a meager 12.
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And now Maro says that there will be themes at different rarities. So you may get say a lot of goblin boosters but not so many say sliver boosters (he didn't use that example, just throwing it out there).
Current Commander decks: Zurgo Helmsmasher - Borborgymos Enraged - Elenda, the Dusk Rose - Doran, the Seige Tower - Sliver Overlord - Yarok, the Desecrated - Scion of the Ur-Dragon - Hazoret the Fervent - Purphoros, God of the Forge - Gisela, Blade of Goldnight - Marath, Will of the Wild - Ramos, Dragon Engine - Ruhan of the Fomori - Narset, Enlightened Master - Kokusho, the Evening Star - Mizzix of the Izmagnus - Dragonsoul Knight (Pauper) - Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas (Precon)
Playing devil's advocate a bit, but...
With the article saying that boosters with mythic rares will have a single list (always the same cards in the booster) it kind of makes sense to have some of those at a different rarity.
I mean, supposing the "Garruk" themed boosters always have a Garruk planeswalker in them, it makes sense to have them appear a little less often than generic Goblins.
On the other hand, if they just have "common themes" like weak goblin or elves and "rare themes" like overpowered angels or dragons made in such a way that if you open 2 common themes and face an opponent with a rare one you are basically screwed, that is just plain wrong and unfun.
With the article saying that boosters with mythic rares will have a single list (always the same cards in the booster) it kind of makes sense to have some of those at a different rarity.
I mean, supposing the "Garruk" themed boosters always have a Garruk planeswalker in them, it makes sense to have them appear a little less often than generic Goblins.
On the other hand, if they just have "common themes" like weak goblin or elves and "rare themes" like overpowered angels or dragons made in such a way that if you open 2 common themes and face an opponent with a rare one you are basically screwed, that is just plain wrong and unfun.
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What if a common theme booster just has seven copies of Seven Dwarves? That's a neat common theme that can probably outpace a planeswalker and assorted thrown-together flavor-related cards.