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by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Hey plaganegra , I took a brief look at your list and noticed a few fixes and have a question or two for you. First thing I noticed was that you have 99 cards listed, so you're missing one. I also think that you could include Corpse Knight in your Haakon package. How has 34 lands worked out for you?...
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Looking at my list, I'm running the following non-land (creature) curves: 0-Drops 3 1-Drops 18 (9) 2-Drops 15 (12) 3-Drops 16 (9) 4-Drops 7 (3) 5-Drops 4 (1) 6-Drops 1 7-Drops 1 Nonland cards = 65 (Creatures = 34) However, I counted Master of Death as a 3-drop and Wonder as a 4-drop, when really the...
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

For @Reya 's list I count the following curve including every card type:

3 0-drops
17 1-drops
16 2-drops
18 3-drops
4 4-drops
5 5-drops
1 6-drops

64 total nonland cards
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Congrats to all here for making it to 100 pages!!! First Commander thread at Nexus to do so. Yeeeeaahh!!! Anyway, Reya and pokken . You two are talking slightly different things. Reya is talking about their creature curve. Pokken is talking about their general curve. In terms of creature curve I cou...
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Nine 3-drops in my deck currently.

Lord of the Undead - Recursion/Lord
Death Baron - Evasion/Lord
Zombie Master - Evasion
Headless Rider - Tokens
Phyrexian Ghoul - Sac Outlet
Nantuko Husk - Sac Outlet
Plague Belcher - Pain
Midnight Reaper - Draw
Master of Death - Draw (effectively)
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

yeti1069 Yeah I'm occasionally tempted to go back to a higher mana curve. Ratadrabik seems fun and I picked up a copy. I was thinking of making a deck around him, but I already have an Orzhov deck in Liesa, Shroud of Dusk and I don't have another full set of lands and goodstuff support cards to hav...
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Hey All, It's been a while since I've written. I'm still following the thread and have been lowering my curve (currently 2.43 non-land CMC/MV) like a few of you have to capitalize on Varina-triggers sooner. I'm curious what folks would tweak with my current decklist. You can click on the mana symbo...
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I've got another question for you @pokken . Do you run Dictate of Erebos over Grave Pact to get the element of surprise, just before you sac a bunch of your creatures? I've got a spare Grave Pact, but only one Dictate and that's committed to my Ayara deck. The real reason is that I like the art bet...
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I've got another question for you @pokken . Do you run Dictate of Erebos over Grave Pact to get the element of surprise, just before you sac a bunch of your creatures? I've got a spare Grave Pact, but only one Dictate and that's committed to my Ayara deck.
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Yeah I think I may give it a whirl in place of Generous Gift. I may swap out Death Baron for Phyrexian Ghoul to get another sac outlet out there, although that's tough for me as the Baron is a bit of pet zombie.
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Thanks All. Yeah I can see a case for either. If you want immediate card draw and have Skullclamp out then you'll get a 2/2 back right away and two cards with Butcher Ghoul. With the Goblin you can clamp and attack with it for a Varina trigger, if someone blocks, you get two cards and a 1/1. Without...
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Yeah I considered that, but what I also should've asked is why are folks running Putrid Goblin over Butcher Ghoul?
by ChocoDude
1 year ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Hey All, It's been a while since I've written. I'm still following the thread and have been lowering my curve (currently 2.43 non-land CMC/MV) like a few of you have to capitalize on Varina-triggers sooner. I'm curious what folks would tweak with my current decklist. You can click on the mana symbol...
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Yeah I still have Empty the Lab in there, but I've had it under my "REMOVE???" category for quite some time as yes, there's less heft to benefit from it. I FINALLY have an Overcharged Amalgam coming from Cardsphere that will take EtL's place in the next few days.
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I had a feeling folks would be lukewarm on it.
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

What do you all think of Obscura Confluence ? You could cast it after blockers are declared to miniaturize up to three nuisance opposing creatures (and hopefully kill them) or connive to filter more and pump or to bring back a zombie(s) we need from the yard. Seems decently strong. I know our lists ...
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: [RETIRED]Sythis, Harvest's Hand - Grass Grows, Birds Fly, Sun Shines
Replies: 33
Views: 2414

Re: Sythis, Harvest's Hand - Grass Grows, Birds Fly, Sun Shines

Since you can't run U, you don't have access to the "unblockable" auras, but what are your thoughts on the pseudo-unblockable auras Spirit Mantle and Unquestioned Authority?
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Combo Midrange
Replies: 142
Views: 20084

Re: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Orzhov Midrange

That's good experiential info. Thanks!! Yeah I have 27 total artifacts+enchantments and with Liesa being easy to bring back it does make more sense to use a very low-cost creature wipe here, especially if you can cast it before Liesa's first turn on the board. I'm going to keep Aura of Silence in th...
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Yeah, I've mapped it out and I'd like to get (1) Luxury Suite, (3) Bountiful Promenades, (2) Morphic Pools, (3) Sea of Clouds, and (1) Spire Garden. Now I wait.
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Combo Midrange
Replies: 142
Views: 20084

Re: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Orzhov Midrange

Actually I agree with your sentiment about it being in hand often, sort of waiting to maximize it's value with X >= 2. It usually doesn't FEEL that good to me. I can see Aura of Silence as an instant deterrent. I think immo make that swap too. Thanks for the response!!
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Combo Midrange
Replies: 142
Views: 20084

Re: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Orzhov Midrange

You know, I saw that you were running Aura of Silence over Heliod's Intervention and I thought about that and it being recurrable with Sevinne's. How has it been without Heliod's in there? I like that it can gain you life IF needed, but the tax of AoS is pretty good and in general it sits lower on t...
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Combo Midrange
Replies: 142
Views: 20084

Re: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Orzhov Midrange

Nice!!! Glad your changes are working out for you. Yeah Liesa really lends herself to many builds. I'm glad I've finally settled on something that's working for me. I have Rog to thank mostly, but I pay attention to what all of you are saying on this thread. As for my swap, I made it AFTER playtesti...
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Well it's good to see the Battlebond lands finally getting a reprint in the upcoming Commander Legends D&D set out in June. I've yet to pick up any of the allied colors for my EDH decks due to $$$.
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Combo Midrange
Replies: 142
Views: 20084

Re: Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - Orzhov Midrange

Turns out I have plenty of ramp so I made the following swap:

Wayfarer's Bauble --> Hero's Blade

Bauble nets me a land for three mana, but makes it more difficult for Land Tax, Tithe, Weathered Wayfarer, and Archaeomancer's Map to be effective.
by ChocoDude
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3525
Views: 250240

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Yeah Skullclamp is really good card draw especially with more lower-curve zombies that I've been going to AND with my token production. Another card I thought of trying again was Tormod the Desecrator for the tokens. That would also be good with Skullclamp, especially if I also add another sac outle...

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