The MCC Discussion Thread

[bravelion83]

And we have a winner for the April 2023 MCC! Congratulations to @bravelion83 for winning the month with a collection of wild and creative cards!

Seeing my name associated with the words "wild" and "creative" feels a little strange to me, but thank you anyway!

There are a couple typos in the name of my card for Round 3 though. Atarka's name has been misspelled as "Atraka" and the first "r" is missing in "Nurturing":

Draconic Nuturing//Atraka's Revelry

I had to go back and make sure I didn't misspell it myself in my submission post but it's correct there, so it's just a typo here.

Anyway, thanks again! Time to update my resume I suppose...

[Rithaniel]

I had to go back and make sure I didn't misspell it myself in my submission post but it's correct there, so it's just a typo here.

Ah, nah, it's just a typo on the original dragonboy and all the associated cards printed in the game.

(Also, fixed.)

[bravelion83]

Draconic Nuturing//Atarka's Revelry

Thank you, but the "r" in "Nurturing" is still missing though... I don't mean to bother you, sorry.
EDIT - I see that now that's been fixed too. Thanks again.

Resume updated. While I was there, I went ahead and put myself in as host and judge for June too (and also DCC host). @void_nothing I'm ready to claim June for the MCC. It will be MOM month and I have all challenges ready, I just have to make the banner(s?).

[Rithaniel]

I don't mean to bother you, sorry.

Don't worry. It wouldn't have gotten fixed if you didn't point it out.

[void_nothing]

@bravelion83 First off, congratulations on your April MCC win, and second, June is definitely all yours to host.

[bravelion83]

My judgments for May Round 2 have been completed. Sorry for the delay, this last weekend has been very busy to me and now I chose to get them done asap rather than go into my usual deep detail.

[slimytrout]

I honestly don't know what the word "phobipositor" means, I've tried to google it but to no avail.

Haha yeah, googling it won't get you very far since it's a word I made up -- supposed to be a portmanteau of "phobia" and "ovipositor" (the tube that insects use to lay eggs), with the idea being that it's some horrible bird that injects fears into you that grow and hatch. But I can certainly see how that was not remotely clear without flavor text, card art, or broader set context.

[bravelion83]

the idea being that it's some horrible bird that injects fears into you that grow and hatch

I had understood this was the intended flavor even if I didn't understand the name, so some flavor still passes through. The core idea is clear, that's why I still gave you a 2/3. If you just couldn't understand the flavor and went like "I wonder what the designer was even thinking about here", now that would have been a full zero or close. Here I had gotten the idea, just not the name. I agree that art would have helped a lot for this card, this part that I've quoted just reads to me like it's taken straight up from the art commission. I can even imagine what this art could look like, I would draw it right now if I could draw (I can't, or at least not better than a little kid, and certainly not better than Maro!)

[bravelion83]

The Judge signup thread for June is up. Round 1 will go up on the 1st.

[Venedrex]

Can I get a 1-day extension to edit my submission please?

[netn10]

Can I get a 1-day extension to edit my submission please?

Yes, go for it.

[bravelion83]

It's the early morning of June 1st here in Italy, so I went ahead and posted June Round 1. It's up right now. Everybody is welcome to enter.

[Raptorchan]

This month clarifications are quite perplexing.
To clarify: may I choose "enters the battlefield, put"? There is a "," here.

[bravelion83]

This month clarifications are quite perplexing.
To clarify: may I choose "enters the battlefield, put"? There is a "," here.

Yes, you can, provided it can be found in the ETB effect of a battle from MOM (I haven't checked). Punctuation doesn't count. If you understand what exactly it's looking for, it's not that difficult. It's just difficult to put it into written form, or at least that's what I found. That's why I added specific examples. I'll also add this to the clarifications spoiler.

[slimytrout]

Pretty sure there's been a misunderstanding here -- Raptorchan is considering the phrase "enters the battlefield" to be part of the ETB effect, and I don't think that was bravelion's intention.

[bravelion83]

Pretty sure there's been a misunderstanding here -- Raptorchan is considering the phrase "enters the battlefield" to be part of the ETB effect, and I don't think that was bravelion's intention.

Exactly. Only the effect of the ETB counts, which is everything that comes after the comma after the trigger condition or, when present, the intervening-if clause. The trigger condition is NOT part of the effect, which is true for all triggered abilities by the way. I've put in the clarifications spoiler the whole list of ETB effects of all the battles specifically to avoid such confusion. You can refer to that list to know which part of the ETB ability counts exactly for each battle in MOM.

Let me make another example. I'll put the trigger condition in blue and the ETB effect in green. The four consecutive words must all be in the green part for your card to pass the Main Challenge.

The phrase Raptorchan proposed does NOT count as "When this battle enters the battlefield, put (something in some zone)." Only the word "put" is part of the effect here, and the Main Challenge requires ALL the 4+ consecutive words to be part of the effect.

It WOULD count instead in a hypothetical battle which says "When this battle enters the battlefield, target creature you control gains 'Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature' until end of turn" for example. I don't know if there are any battles in MOM with that phrase in the effect of the ETB ability. I'm sorry, but I haven't learned the rules text of all battles in MOM by heart yet, I would have to check.

EDIT - I've checked. There are none. If you refer to Muraganda and Moag, those fall exactly into the first example I've made here, the one where only the word "put" is part of the effect, so they would NOT count. We're specifically looking at the effect here, not the whole ability. Hope this helps.

[bravelion83]

My judgments for May Round 3 have been completed.

[kwanyeegor-ii]

For the May MCC finals subchallenge 1... can this be a keyword counter as long as it is not one that exists yet? for example could it be a skulk counter?

[netn10]

For the May MCC finals subchallenge 1... can this be a keyword counter as long as it is not one that exists yet? for example could it be a skulk counter?

Keyword counters as a whole exists, so all all of them are off the table. I will also clarify that counters such as +1/-1 and +3/+3, etc are off the table.

[Venedrex]

Clarification question, does the new mana have to be in the cost of the spell or can it be anywhere on the card itself, such as an activated ability?

Thanks

Oh, and do you want us to specify the name of the new mana or is just using a symbol OK?

[netn10]

Clarification question, does the new mana have to be in the cost of the spell or can it be anywhere on the card itself, such as an activated ability?

Thanks

Oh, and do you want us to specify the name of the new mana or is just using a symbol OK?

The new mana can appear anywhere on the card itself - so activated ability is ok.

Using both the name of the new mana and a symbol to represent it are both acceptable. You can do both at the same time if needed.

[bravelion83]

My own judgments for June Round 1 have been completed. You can find them at the bottom of the linked post. Still waiting for @void_nothing's ones.

[Raptorchan]

@bravelion83, have you tried using mtgcardbuilder? It has quite great template for sagas where you can rearrange chapter space to see text fitting into the frame:

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[bravelion83]

No, I haven't. I didn't even know of its existence until I googled it now. It looks to me like a site where you make your custom cards online. I'm interested in an offline program I can download locally, not something online. I've also customized several local templates in MSE and even made someone of my own. I'm honestly not interested in changing tools, but thank you for letting me know it exists.

[Rithaniel]

Is there a host lined up for July yet? If not, I could start preparing a theme.