[ELD] Syr Gwyn, Hero of Ashvale, Mardu Knight commander!
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From today's Mothership article about the Brawl decks.
As hinted at by Tournament Grounds, it's the long awaited Mardu Knight tribal commander! Well, I awaited it. Anyway, we're clearly meant to go wide with equipment and knights here. It's not the most exciting thing, but I dig it.
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Mardu colors, great! Draw excellent. Equip potentially zero brilliant. 6 mana...into the bin it goes. Unplayable. Why do they always make the least played colors always even harder to play?
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6 cmc too high...
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Only for tiny commanders, for the regular kind, she can hit the board quite rapidly.
Heck, with the perfect hand she can drop on turn 2 (basic, solring, signet with remaining 2 colors, turn 2 ancient tomb, summon the commander)
Even if you don't get a perfect hand, it is far from hard to get six mana before turn sex in commander, on average she should drop around turn four.
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Wait a second
Brawl Legends weren't supposed to be shards?
out Palladia in Rienne
out Arcades in Chulane
out Vaevictis in Korvold
out Chromium in Alela
and out Nicol Bolas, in... this mardu?
Brawl Legends weren't supposed to be shards?
out Palladia in Rienne
out Arcades in Chulane
out Vaevictis in Korvold
out Chromium in Alela
and out Nicol Bolas, in... this mardu?
- The N82O Molecule
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I would have been happy with a 2/2 for wbr
Whats the red, if white is vigilance the menace? Omg what is going on with this card. Wait the white is the equip redux, and black is menace and the red is vigilance. Wait no, and why would my knight draw me a card and do damage to me? Knights are about hierarchy through battles won no?
I hope i get one
Whats the red, if white is vigilance the menace? Omg what is going on with this card. Wait the white is the equip redux, and black is menace and the red is vigilance. Wait no, and why would my knight draw me a card and do damage to me? Knights are about hierarchy through battles won no?
I hope i get one
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This card has four abilities and three colors. Every attempt to create a bijective correspondence between these two sets seems misguided.
Vigilance is white.
Menace is black-red.
The triggered ability has a red-white condition and a black effect.
The static ability is white, and arguably also available to red.
This card is educational, because it teaches that Equipment is a plural word.
Vigilance is white.
Menace is black-red.
The triggered ability has a red-white condition and a black effect.
The static ability is white, and arguably also available to red.
This card is educational, because it teaches that Equipment is a plural word.
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Yesterday I played some games with this deck on Arena and it is underperforming as hell.Today I plan on using the bant deck and see what happens
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I don't know, I had pretty good luck with this deck. Unless they pulled ahead and landed the dragon commander when I had no removal, I didn't see this deck being that much weaker. The only thing that felt wrong was that there were far too many CIPT lands for such an aggro-y deck. Every time I landed Gwyn on the field, the deck just went into overdrive as long as I had some equipment out first.Judge Irenicus wrote: ↑4 years agoYesterday I played some games with this deck on Arena and it is underperforming as hell.Today I plan on using the bant deck and see what happens
Admittedly, I didn't play against too many different decks. Nothing but Korvolds and Gwyns as far as the eye could see.
This decks problem was the lack of draw outside of the commander. I would often get stuck at 4-5 lands/mana sources unable to do anything or get my field wiped and have no way of coming back from it. I think I won 2 out of 6 games. When I played chulaine I won 4 out of 6 with all the draw and combo potential in the deck. This just feels like a bad aggro deck most of the time and the draw engine costing 6 just kills it.
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The power of this card really made me feel like it should have been a five drop with no other changes or maybe even a 4 drop with a dip in stats. Its interesting but it feels very underwhelming to me in comparison to the other legends they spoiled yesterday.
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Syr Gwyn looks interesting to me - the card draw ability promotes a go-wide strategy, while the equip 0 ability lets you play all sorts of beefy equipment. Keywords also provide support for an equipment-based voltron strategy. I would say the primary attraction of the commander is getting to play all sorts of equipment without needing to deal with equip costs - there are a lot of sweet pieces of equipment that I want to play but can't because they require too much investment, such as Moonsilver Spear and Argentum Armor.
There are some concerns though - costing six mana is certainly one of them, since if you're filling your deck with Colossus Hammer and friends, then you may not be able to equip them until your commander is out. Deck needs to have a lot of ramp to play Syr Gwyn ahead of curve consistently.
The other major concern is Knights as a tribe - they're a bit one-dimensional, with the vast majority of them being french vanilla, combat-focused creatures. There aren't many knights that generate card advantage or provide interaction, so you'll need to lean pretty hard on your equipment for that (which, again, means that you need to have your commander out consistently).
...and of course, if you're filling your deck with Knights and Equipment, then that greatly limits how many slots you have available for removal, card draw, and ramp, which makes the deck even more one-dimensional.
...I think my primary concern is actually that most tuned Syr Gwyn will probably be a bit repetitive, playing the same set of knights and equipment. There aren't a lot of different directions it can be taken, and the pool of cards that synergize with the commander is a bit shallow. I generally prefer commanders that allow a bit more customization.
There are some concerns though - costing six mana is certainly one of them, since if you're filling your deck with Colossus Hammer and friends, then you may not be able to equip them until your commander is out. Deck needs to have a lot of ramp to play Syr Gwyn ahead of curve consistently.
The other major concern is Knights as a tribe - they're a bit one-dimensional, with the vast majority of them being french vanilla, combat-focused creatures. There aren't many knights that generate card advantage or provide interaction, so you'll need to lean pretty hard on your equipment for that (which, again, means that you need to have your commander out consistently).
...and of course, if you're filling your deck with Knights and Equipment, then that greatly limits how many slots you have available for removal, card draw, and ramp, which makes the deck even more one-dimensional.
...I think my primary concern is actually that most tuned Syr Gwyn will probably be a bit repetitive, playing the same set of knights and equipment. There aren't a lot of different directions it can be taken, and the pool of cards that synergize with the commander is a bit shallow. I generally prefer commanders that allow a bit more customization.