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Rorseph Compleat Fool
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Gor Muldrak, Amphinologist has really caught my eye as tech for my Volrath deck. Anything that can potentially put a mess of tokens into play under an opponent's control is worth a look due to Nacatl War-Pride. This is the first card since Fiend Artisan or Chevill, Bane of Monsters that I've been truly excited about for that deck.
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—Phyrexian Scriptures
Aurelia | Maelstrom Wanderer | Primer: Thassa | Uro | Primer: Volrath
—Phyrexian Scriptures
Aurelia | Maelstrom Wanderer | Primer: Thassa | Uro | Primer: Volrath
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Now that she has been officially revealed, can someone explain me the point of Jeska?
Laboratory Servant
Oh look, another conditional Phyrexian Arena. I love less reliable versions of already mediocre cards! /s
Oh look, another conditional Phyrexian Arena. I love less reliable versions of already mediocre cards! /s
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ISBPathfinder Bebopin
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Jeska, Thrice Rebornilovesaprolings wrote: ↑3 years agoNow that she has been officially revealed, can someone explain me the point of Jeska?
She tripples the combat damage of the partner commander ideally. It seems very efficient to play your other commander and then on the following turn follow up with Jeska and force tripple damage on them. It would be very easy to commander damage someone out through this. It also seems like it would be good potentially paired with Tana, the Bloodsower to throw out a random partner that has value beyond just punching the face. Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker seems like a good example of a commander that trippling the damage output of could result in a one shot kill.
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Worth noting that it triggers on each end step, not just yours. So while it will often be a single card a cycle, if you can reliably cast out of the graveyard/activate abilities on other's turns, it can draw you more than that. Additionally, having a body is a relevant thing, especially at a 3/4 that can deter some attackers.ZenN wrote: ↑3 years agoLaboratory Servant
Oh look, another conditional Phyrexian Arena. I love less reliable versions of already mediocre cards! /s
Oh, does it? The translation I saw just said YOUR end step. Definitely a little better if it's on opponents' end steps as well. Could be decent with a lot of flashback instants and such.Wallycaine wrote: ↑3 years agoWorth noting that it triggers on each end step, not just yours. So while it will often be a single card a cycle, if you can reliably cast out of the graveyard/activate abilities on other's turns, it can draw you more than that. Additionally, having a body is a relevant thing, especially at a 3/4 that can deter some attackers.ZenN wrote: ↑3 years agoLaboratory Servant
Oh look, another conditional Phyrexian Arena. I love less reliable versions of already mediocre cards! /s
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ISBPathfinder Bebopin
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Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh
Oh wow, I really never thought I would ever see a zero cast commander. Thats cool.
Oh wow, I really never thought I would ever see a zero cast commander. Thats cool.
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Probably my favourite one so far! I love the design, it's stupid and fun xDISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoRograkh, Son of Rohgahh
Oh wow, I really never thought I would ever see a zero cast commander. Thats cool.
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Agreed, that's pretty cool, I suppose the red dot next to its card types indicates it's color identity? because else this is colorless and not red.ISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoRograkh, Son of Rohgahh
Oh wow, I really never thought I would ever see a zero cast commander. Thats cool.
EDH Decks:
Queen Marchesa
Chainer, Dementia Master
Will Kenrith
Bruna, the fading light
Queen Marchesa
Chainer, Dementia Master
Will Kenrith
Bruna, the fading light
If only her ability didn't specifiy combat damage, she would be so good as one of the 99 in Ruric Thar. As is, yeah, she is going to make some flying partner commander like Ishai pretty deadly. That's probably not the most dangerious thing possible in terms of partner commanders.ISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoJeska, Thrice Rebornilovesaprolings wrote: ↑3 years agoNow that she has been officially revealed, can someone explain me the point of Jeska?
She tripples the combat damage of the partner commander ideally. It seems very efficient to play your other commander and then on the following turn follow up with Jeska and force tripple damage on them. It would be very easy to commander damage someone out through this. It also seems like it would be good potentially paired with Tana, the Bloodsower to throw out a random partner that has value beyond just punching the face. Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker seems like a good example of a commander that trippling the damage output of could result in a one shot kill.
I have 68 active EDH decks, with more in progress. I don't consider this a problem. Do you?
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
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Yeah, that's a color identity. He's red, like the other Kobolds. It's an interesting pile of keywords he got, so you've really got to buff him a ton to get some usefullness out of them. Either that, or have a plan to abuse his zero cost nature.not-a-cube wrote: ↑3 years agoAgreed, that's pretty cool, I suppose the red dot next to its card types indicates it's color identity? because else this is colorless and not red.ISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoRograkh, Son of Rohgahh
Oh wow, I really never thought I would ever see a zero cast commander. Thats cool.
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The other big thing she does is act as repeatable removal in the command zone. As long as you've cast her partner first, "deal 2 damage to up to 3 targets" isn't a terrible spell to have access to, and can ramp up from there. Plus, you still have the option of tripling any combat damage creature, not just her partner, and still threatening that burn if they get back to you.JWK wrote: ↑3 years agoIf only her ability didn't specifiy combat damage, she would be so good as one of the 99 in Ruric Thar. As is, yeah, she is going to make some flying partner commander like Ishai pretty deadly. That's probably not the most dangerious thing possible in terms of partner commanders.ISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoJeska, Thrice Rebornilovesaprolings wrote: ↑3 years agoNow that she has been officially revealed, can someone explain me the point of Jeska?
She tripples the combat damage of the partner commander ideally. It seems very efficient to play your other commander and then on the following turn follow up with Jeska and force tripple damage on them. It would be very easy to commander damage someone out through this. It also seems like it would be good potentially paired with Tana, the Bloodsower to throw out a random partner that has value beyond just punching the face. Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker seems like a good example of a commander that trippling the damage output of could result in a one shot kill.
...I guess Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh and Tentative Connection can work their way into there, too. Good grief.Serenade wrote: ↑3 years agoDargo shenanigans
T1: artifact land, Sol Ring
T2: mountain, Claim the Firstborn, Dargo
T2 (opponent): PTE
Mirri, Cat Warrior counts as a Cat Warrior.
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ISBPathfinder Bebopin
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My immediate thoughts on who to pair him with and or what to do with him:
- Reyhan, Last of the Abzan - Could do sort of a sac / counters strategy. Having a free cast commander could help in that having something worth putting Reyhan's counters on that curves ahead of him can be relevant. As soon as Reyhan would be in play you could combat trick counters around with a sac outlet making blocking challenging for opponents. Opal Palace was a card that I thought was kind of amusing for both commanders here and you pick up green land search options with Reyhan so thats kind of cool.
- Akiri, Line-Slinger - Equipment seems like a natural synergy with Rograkh and Akiri likes them too. Both commanders having first strike means you could just lean into more power style of equipment if you want. Picking up white with an equipment strategy is also probably a good thing as there is plenty of equipment synergy in the two colors.
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Another cute one that Gavin pointed out on twitter is Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools: He likes having cheap sac fodder guarenteed, and it's even better that it's a commander, so you can draw the extra card off Tevesh's +1. Plus, it gives you access to red, so you can combine Tevesh's sac engine with steal effects.ISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoMy immediate thoughts on who to pair him with and or what to do with him:
Those were the two that jumped out to me the most at least as of right now.
- Reyhan, Last of the Abzan - Could do sort of a sac / counters strategy. Having a free cast commander could help in that having something worth putting Reyhan's counters on that curves ahead of him can be relevant. As soon as Reyhan would be in play you could combat trick counters around with a sac outlet making blocking challenging for opponents. Opal Palace was a card that I thought was kind of amusing for both commanders here and you pick up green land search options with Reyhan so thats kind of cool.
- Akiri, Line-Slinger - Equipment seems like a natural synergy with Rograkh and Akiri likes them too. Both commanders having first strike means you could just lean into more power style of equipment if you want. Picking up white with an equipment strategy is also probably a good thing as there is plenty of equipment synergy in the two colors.
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Hawk Slayer of Threads
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So far I'm sorta shocked at how little of this set really interests me. The most exciting things are Three Visits at uncommon so I can maybe nab a few and Path of Ancestry at common, which I need about 10 copies of. I know part of the idea is to make new commanders but I'm just not that enthused yet, not even about lore characters I've wanted for ages like Glacian + Rebbec, Architect of Ascension or Belbe, Corrupted Observer - although Belbe may replace Nath as a more aggressive Elf-tribal Commander?
Even a card that seems tailor-made for a deck archetype I run, like Laboratory Servant, feels like more a side-grade than a raw upgrade.
I dunno, maybe I'm just in such a funk from not playing Commander in months and from the whole Secret Dead fiasco that I'm not thinking fourth dimensionally enough?
Even a card that seems tailor-made for a deck archetype I run, like Laboratory Servant, feels like more a side-grade than a raw upgrade.
I dunno, maybe I'm just in such a funk from not playing Commander in months and from the whole Secret Dead fiasco that I'm not thinking fourth dimensionally enough?
Sufferer of EDHD
Commander: Current(ish) Arsenal
Daretti, Scrap Savant (Decklist) Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow Samut, Voice of Dissent The Gitrog Monster (Decklist)Quintorius, Field Historian
Volo, Guide to Monsters Sevinne, the Chronoclasm
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Heliod, Sun-crowned Mirri the Cursed Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist Sygg, River Guide Jeska, Thrice Reborn // Falthis, Shadowcat Familair // Obosh the Preypiercer
Miara, Thorn of the Glade//Numa, Joraga Chieftain Arcades, the Strategist Phelddagrif Varina, Lich Queen
Daretti, Scrap Savant (Decklist) Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow Samut, Voice of Dissent The Gitrog Monster (Decklist)Quintorius, Field Historian
Volo, Guide to Monsters Sevinne, the Chronoclasm
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Heliod, Sun-crowned Mirri the Cursed Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist Sygg, River Guide Jeska, Thrice Reborn // Falthis, Shadowcat Familair // Obosh the Preypiercer
Miara, Thorn of the Glade//Numa, Joraga Chieftain Arcades, the Strategist Phelddagrif Varina, Lich Queen
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Rorseph Compleat Fool
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It's been a %$#% firehose of product this past year. It's like, "I want off this ride, WotC!"
"From void evolved Phyrexia. Great Yawgmoth, Father of Machines, saw its perfection. Thus The Grand Evolution began."
—Phyrexian Scriptures
Aurelia | Maelstrom Wanderer | Primer: Thassa | Uro | Primer: Volrath
—Phyrexian Scriptures
Aurelia | Maelstrom Wanderer | Primer: Thassa | Uro | Primer: Volrath
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I think there are some pretty fantastic cards here, particularly when it comes to ones that fill a niche need, like hosing ramp and tutors or making aggro strategies (and commander-damage kills) more viable. But whenever I start to feel pretty up about it, we get a spoiler featuring something really broken like new Kodama or the Simic serpent, and that tends to kill my buzz. But not enough to not appreciate something like Belbe or the lizard, thankfully, but still.
Beyond that, the sheer amount of product we've been getting is honestly pretty overwhelming. I have found that there are just a lot more good and interesting cards than you can possibly fit into decks, and that's kind of crazy when you consider I have 66 active decks. I haven't even figured out which decks most need a copy of Luminous Broodmoth, and there have been an awful lot of potentially playable cards released since then.
And then, yeah, the Secret Dead thing and Wizards' complete lack of an actual response to it, that puts kind of a damper on everything for me, too. People outside Wizards but who have contact with them have told us we can expect more of the same for awhile at least, and Wizards' silence on the matter just reinforces that idea. It sucks that those concerns put a damper on enthusiasm for a product which has nothing to do with that, and which Gavin and his crew put so much work into and which has so many nifty aspects to it, but it is what it is. I have some trouble being excited about forking over a lot of money to a company we clearly cannot trust to do the right thing by its customers or even for the good of the game.
Beyond that, the sheer amount of product we've been getting is honestly pretty overwhelming. I have found that there are just a lot more good and interesting cards than you can possibly fit into decks, and that's kind of crazy when you consider I have 66 active decks. I haven't even figured out which decks most need a copy of Luminous Broodmoth, and there have been an awful lot of potentially playable cards released since then.
And then, yeah, the Secret Dead thing and Wizards' complete lack of an actual response to it, that puts kind of a damper on everything for me, too. People outside Wizards but who have contact with them have told us we can expect more of the same for awhile at least, and Wizards' silence on the matter just reinforces that idea. It sucks that those concerns put a damper on enthusiasm for a product which has nothing to do with that, and which Gavin and his crew put so much work into and which has so many nifty aspects to it, but it is what it is. I have some trouble being excited about forking over a lot of money to a company we clearly cannot trust to do the right thing by its customers or even for the good of the game.
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I have 68 active EDH decks, with more in progress. I don't consider this a problem. Do you?
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
For those bummed about missing playing paper magic, btw, unless you simply can't afford the set-up costs for a good webcam, mounting device and headphone/mic setup - which is legit, because the cost is not insignificant - I really do recomend trying to do some distance play via webcam. I resisted that for a long time due mostly to my being a tech dummy and too overwhelmed with work and COVID and lots of other things to put the effort into figuring it out, but since I recently started playing some games online with actual cards, I have felt substantially better. Spelltable is really pretty nifty.
I have 68 active EDH decks, with more in progress. I don't consider this a problem. Do you?
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
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This set will spawn many new decks and this decks won't be powercreep monsters. I like this a lot. We still need to see many tricolor legendaries. Personally i hope for an abzan elf tribal.
Commander Tax will be easy to keep track of with it lol 2,4,6 etcDragoon wrote: ↑3 years agoProbably my favourite one so far! I love the design, it's stupid and fun xDISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoRograkh, Son of Rohgahh
Oh wow, I really never thought I would ever see a zero cast commander. Thats cool.
stop reading my mind...ISBPathfinder wrote: ↑3 years agoMy immediate thoughts on who to pair him with and or what to do with him:
Those were the two that jumped out to me the most at least as of right now.
- Akiri, Line-Slinger - Equipment seems like a natural synergy with Rograkh and Akiri likes them too. Both commanders having first strike means you could just lean into more power style of equipment if you want. Picking up white with an equipment strategy is also probably a good thing as there is plenty of equipment synergy in the two colors.
The Secret of Commander (EDH)
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