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Post by toctheyounger » 4 years ago

I like Loam more for being a really resilient engine on its own. Crucible is easy enough to turn off with removal, whereas Loam just keeps coming back. To be fair though I haven't playing with Crucible, just the Magus.

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Post by Gashnaw » 4 years ago

Gitrog decks are all the same, omnath allows you build an army. Still the same decks (drop lots of lands) but fares better against a board wipe.

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Post by ISBPathfinder » 4 years ago

Grim Monolith - Basalt has a few more ways to go infinite but I find in general I prefer getting the mana sooner for more decks. Grim can still go infinite with some of the same ways with Rings of Brighthearth being sort of the one that comes to mind that it doesn't work for Grim but does with Basalt. Still though, I think that outside of going infinite Grim takes it by a mile and in several cases they can both go infinite from the same effects.

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Post by toctheyounger » 4 years ago

Crook, because you choose.

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Post by Rorseph » 4 years ago

Tormod's Crypt because it can slot into any deck.

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Post by toctheyounger » 4 years ago

Defiled, and it's an easy choice. Strong reanimation on a small body is infinitely better than a barbarian pump.

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Post by JovialJovian » 4 years ago

Fist.
Pit Fighter is just too fragile for commander, and Fist provides a pretty strong deterrent to board wipes while you're setting up for your Overrun alpha strike.

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Post by Morganelefay » 4 years ago

Beguiler. You're more likely to be able to nick small creatures when your army is small than you are to find random enchanted creatures laying about.

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Post by Sinis » 4 years ago

Mind Stone. 2-mana rocks are really good Magic cards. I found that once I was doing something on turn 2 in many of my decks, they got a lot better. That isn't to say Commander's Sphere is bad; it's just better late game. But, if the conversation around Arcane Signet is at all justified, I would venture that 2-mana rocks are important af.

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Post by Rorseph » 4 years ago

Crush of Tentacles purely because I get to use the "Hit him with your crossbow, Steve!" Octopus token with it and that just makes me happy.

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Post by JovialJovian » 4 years ago

Engulf for the lighter mana cost, despite the chance to miss a big threat. Mass bounce is typically intended to clear a wide board rather than a tall one anyway.

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Post by Morganelefay » 4 years ago

Sower, not even close. The double requirement of Willbreaker is a pain, though it does have a few cute combos, typically Sower will do more for you.

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Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis - Arise, Lord Hogaak.
Grumgully, the Generous - The wonderful world of Ferngully.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw Cards Tribal.
Pir, Imaginative Rascal & Toothy, Imaginary Friend - Imaginary Superfriends.
Selvala, Explorer Returned - Taxes, Denial and Fatties.
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds - Dinos and Eldrazis, oh my.
Ayara, First of Locthwain - March of the Black Queen.
Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh - Chandra Tribal.
Golos, Tireless Pilgrim - Curious Contraptions

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Post by Mookie » 4 years ago

Murderous Rider. 2 life isn't totally irrelevant, but it's not a huge cost either. On the other hand, a 2/3 lifelinker is very relevant, and you get Zombie (and Knight) synergies.

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Post by Sinis » 4 years ago

The Abyss is my favourite card in Magic. I recognize Smokestack can push people into not being able to play the game, but the Abyss will always have a special place in my heart.

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Post by JovialJovian » 4 years ago

Breeding Pit, you'll get more out of it in a typical commander game, though the upkeep cost is a bit irritating. Also, you get to keep your Thrulls if you lose the Pit.

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Post by Legend » 4 years ago

Gigantoplasm. It's monocolored and the mana sink ability has repeatable, (arguably niche) functions.
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Post by Morganelefay » 4 years ago

Ice Floe. It can hold back various dangerous threats for longer if so required, preventing future attack triggers as well.

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Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis - Arise, Lord Hogaak.
Grumgully, the Generous - The wonderful world of Ferngully.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw Cards Tribal.
Pir, Imaginative Rascal & Toothy, Imaginary Friend - Imaginary Superfriends.
Selvala, Explorer Returned - Taxes, Denial and Fatties.
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds - Dinos and Eldrazis, oh my.
Ayara, First of Locthwain - March of the Black Queen.
Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh - Chandra Tribal.
Golos, Tireless Pilgrim - Curious Contraptions

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Post by JovialJovian » 4 years ago

Strix. The deathtouch isn't conditional, and these type of creatures are most often used for the draw, so having the bonus feature of deathtouch active regardless is better than the flash in my mind.

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Post by Legend » 4 years ago

Both can be a blast to play. Going with Descent though because it can be so disruptive to opponents and is just doing something that feels very red but mechanically isn't typically red.
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Post by toctheyounger » 4 years ago

Caryatid - realistically you're not attacking with these guys, so evergreen hexproof seems better and stats don't matter otherwise.

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Post by umtiger » 4 years ago

I play both Oracle and Azusa a whole lot. Their card texts are essential to my pet deck. I got to say that I like Azusa a whole bunch more. Even though Oracle + Jace TMS is my favorite combo in all of MTG, the ceiling that Azusa raises my deck is just on an entirely different level.

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For this one, I just picked the most popular creature vs Emrakul. I have a sneaking suspicion that Promised End is just the best creature you can cast. I like playing with powerful cards, and I just want to play Emrakul in most decks.

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Post by Nimbaway » 4 years ago

Going to give it to Steve myself. It's influenced by being a slightly more casual player myself, but it's more because Steve is quite useful in the early game as both ramp and being pretty much a fog on a stick. It lets you play games where Emmy ends them once you get to that point.

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Post by umtiger » 4 years ago

I haven't been able to cast Song of the Dryads very much. But they way it shuts down an opponent's deck at times is clutch. Then again, Beast Within being instant speed is also clutch. This one is tough for me.

Even if it's a weaker card, I prefer Beast Within due to my playstyle. And when the instant speed pays off, Beast Within just has such a high impact. The last time I played it, I destroyed a Doubling Season with Jace, AoT on the stack.

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If you already play Rogue's in all of your decks, would go to the dark side JUST to take advantage of Shizo?

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Post by Hermes_ » 4 years ago

I'd go with Rogue's passage,as i find more useful in my voltron deck..well i would if i had it there.

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Post by Mookie » 4 years ago

Riding the Dilu Horse. There are a lot of replacements for making your creatures effectively unblockable in blue - Keeper of Keys and Archetype of Imagination, but even Sleep works. However, it's harder to find evasion in green - mostly just trample, which doesn't work quite as well. Also, it's one of very few spells that grant an effect indefinitely, which makes it fairly unique.

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