Sinis wrote: ↑2 years ago
Upheaval|ODY is banned, sadly. I think you need
Necropotence|ICE, despite colour constraints, considering how long it was an iconic card.
For a mana base, I'm going to remain agnostic about whether you're not using Onslaught fetches or ABUR Duals.
- Painlands are old frame (Ice Age and Apocalypse), budget, and good.
- Krosan Verge|JUD, City of Brass|CHR, and even Gemstone Mine|WTH is good fixing.
- The Odyssey signet land cycle Darkwater Catacombs|ODY can help fix, and come into play untapped, and could potentially defray life loss from Painlands (though, this can also bite you if you need colours that the signet-lands don't provide, and you're trying to leverage something that you can only just barely cast).
- Land Tax fixes, and you probably won't be ahead a whole lot considering how few good ramp cards are old frame.
- Mirage had some fetchlands (Bad River|MIR, Grasslands|MIR, etc.) and they top out at a few bucks each (even Bad River, which has never been reprinted in paper, is $3 according to scryfall). They're not great, and they compare pretty unfavourably to Terramorphic/Evolving, but they are old frame, and they do fix (and are better with duals, but, most people I know aren't using them or don't have them).
There are options, since there is an old frame Solemn, Farseek, and the usual old suspects like Rampant Growth, Skyshroud Claim, Explosive Vegetation, etc. You can probably get to a customary 8-10 ramp cards, though some of them might be niche or bad; Skyshroud Claim isn't going to fix for you, and
Far Wanderings|TOR is an excellent card in the right deck, but I wouldn't just jam it in any deck, and this one sounds like it won't get to leverage the Threshold very often in the early game.
My big question before really taking a deep dive on the non-mana contents is how do you want to win and how do you want the deck to play?
I'll be generating ABUs and using the
ten eleven fetches, thanks MH2 for providing retros of those. I've currently got
Land Tax in here, but upping to ten basics (two of each) is high to justify it, and sticking with one of each makes land tax not entirely worth. Claim/Lore/Visits will clearly carry more weight in this way for sure. Krosan Verge should make the cut too, and I bet then
Thawing Glaciers will do better long term than land tax here as well. Based on the moxfield link
here, I think I'm good on the ramp and fixing.
I want to leverage it towards a more casual end value town deck. Not rushing to a t2 combo (despite squirrelcraft being present), but being able to keep up with decks at all stages. So, I guess that puts me at a 5cc deck. Using Garth to leverage removal on-call, a threat on-call, hand refill on-call, and recursion on-call, so some blink to reset him. To that end, I have
Tradewind Rider in the list since you can self bounce with rider, garth, and his shivan. This suggests I want a bit more of a token play, and with that I could do
Opposition and some other untap shenanigans to double proc Garth (like the already-in-list
seeker of skybreak|tmp).
...Aaaaaannnnnnddddd there's my problem. I'm getting overwhelmed with choices and decision paralysis. 5c is powerful and there's so many impressive things I want to do that I'm getting serious FOMO if I don't do all of it.
