Kyoshiro wrote: ↑3 months ago
Hello,
First of all, I fell in love with Grothama thanks to your primer so thank you !
I was curious about some cards not being included, since the budget isn't a problem ( hello
Phyrexian Dreadnought or
Mana Crypt ):
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Concordant Crossroads, the deck lacks "haste" cards and for one mana you can blow up the table after some big drops from
Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant for example or anything else
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Sylvan Library is just too damn good to dig early in the deck to build up our gameplan fast enough
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Last March of the Ents, another wincon like
Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant or
Myojin of Life's Web. It can't be countered, you get more cards and you don't even need a big creature on the board to use it if you previously drew with our lovely Grothama
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Gaea's Touch is my favorite ramp spell ! You can ramp reeeally fast and get that last bump needed by sacrifying it. You can reach 7 mana turn 3 with enough lands in hand + the activated ability.
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Natural Order instead of
Pattern of Rebirth, it seems to me that it's just better in general ?
Furthermore, I love
Cultivator Colossus and
Realm Seekers which are both amazing cards ! One gives you a big trample creature with SO MUCH ramp and draw in a single turn after your hand is filled with lands thanks to Grothama and the other is a huge beatstick for 6 mana, especially with a big hand of course, but even with 4 normal hands from each player it can be already terrifying.
I'm looking forward to see what you think about these ones
Welcome to the Cult of the Slug! Glad to see you around!
As far as your cards go, the only one I really disagree with is Natural Order. Pattern of Rebirth is more flexible - if you have a slugger, you suit up Grothama with the Pattern, swing into her, then you get the cards AND whatever you wanted to dig for (probably Ghalta 2.0). NO just lets you trade one body for another, which is not a bad thing! You can definitely run it with no shame. But what are you saccing to NO? Looking at your list, you've got a bunch of sluggers, a couple cards like Gigantosaurus that kill Grothama and die, and a couple Goreclaw iterations. You don't have the token-makers or the "made-to-be-killed" bodies (that, to be fair, Kyra and I have both phased out as well). So, what's your NO sacrifice?
Last March of the Ents seems ... fine? It's eight mana, and that's a lot. If we've already drawn a huge hand, we're winning anyway. If we don't have a huge hand, we need a big butt on the board. I think that the key consideration is that we don't usually win by going wide with beaters. Sure, the game CAN play out that way, but our normal wins are through drawing our library with Psychosis Crawler in play, or Berserking a huge indestructible/regenerating beater and then maybe doing it again. So I don't think that "dump your hand for 8 mana" is great. Honestly, I've never even managed to pull off the Myojin "dump your hand" trick, and that costs one more and comes with a creature that kills Grothama and survives doing it.
Gaea's Touch is fast mana, and I've made a personal choice to eschew that, but it's a cool old card, especially if you have the version that's misprinted (about half of them have the text shifted a few millimeters). Sylvan Library, basically the same thing (It's powerful; I'm consciously powering down). I can't remember our original thoughts on Concordant Crossroads - I'll let
@Kyra Warsong speak to that one. On paper it seems decent, especially if we're dropping it the turn we're going to win instead of just mindlessly running it out on T1 and letting everyone else benefit from it first.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Pass on NO, Last March seems like a worse copy of an effect that we already have and I never use, and the rest are personal choices.
thanks for the effort!
