Will this enter the battlefield with twice X counters?
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Creature - Type
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Ravenous
Ravenous
Double X
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"I want my brain to win games, not my cards." – Sheldon Menery
The way Ravenous is currently written, no, this does not do that. Ravenous says it enters with X counters. Saying it twice won't double it. You will just have one replacement effect that says "Enter with X counters" and then the second just "Wait, instead of that, enter with X counters". If it said "additional counters" or something it might work but it doesn't so you will need to find a different way to do this.
How about this? Since the former causes it to enter with X counters and the latter puts X counters on it (or creates tokens) when it enters the battlefield. But assuming counters are chosen, would the number of total counters be twice X?WizardMN wrote: ↑2 weeks agoThe way Ravenous is currently written, no, this does not do that. Ravenous says it enters with X counters. Saying it twice won't double it. You will just have one replacement effect that says "Enter with X counters" and then the second just "Wait, instead of that, enter with X counters". If it said "additional counters" or something it might work but it doesn't so you will need to find a different way to do this.
CARDNAME (Rarity)
Creature - Type
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Ravenous
Fabricate X
“Comboing in Commander is like dunking on a seven foot hoop.” – Dana Roach
“Making a deck that other people want to play against – that’s Commander.” – Gavin Duggan
"I want my brain to win games, not my cards." – Sheldon Menery
“Making a deck that other people want to play against – that’s Commander.” – Gavin Duggan
"I want my brain to win games, not my cards." – Sheldon Menery
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Yes, two instances of Ravenous would make it enter with twice the +1/+1 counters. This is pretty standard stuff. They both occur separately and both stack. Like, Cetavolver will enter the battlefield with four +1/+1 counters if you pay both costs.
One modifies the enters-the-battlefield event to put an extra X +1/+1 counters on it.
The other further modifies the enters-the-battlefield event to put an extra X +1/+1 counters on it.
In the end, it's entering with twice X +1/+1 counters on it.
Let's note the CR for ravenous does not specify "Multiple instances of ravenous are redundant", which it would do either in a functional or advisory capacity if it was in fact redundant.
One modifies the enters-the-battlefield event to put an extra X +1/+1 counters on it.
The other further modifies the enters-the-battlefield event to put an extra X +1/+1 counters on it.
In the end, it's entering with twice X +1/+1 counters on it.
Let's note the CR for ravenous does not specify "Multiple instances of ravenous are redundant", which it would do either in a functional or advisory capacity if it was in fact redundant.
Sweet! Yeah, I thought I was right in thinking it would double the counters but wasn't sure because of "additional blabla". But Volvers answer that question perfectly. Thanks.spacemonaut wrote: ↑2 weeks agoYes, two instances of Ravenous would make it enter with twice the +1/+1 counters. This is pretty standard stuff. They both occur separately and both stack. Like, Cetavolver will enter the battlefield with four +1/+1 counters if you pay both costs.
One modifies the enters-the-battlefield event to put an extra X +1/+1 counters on it.
The other further modifies the enters-the-battlefield event to put an extra X +1/+1 counters on it.
In the end, it's entering with twice X +1/+1 counters on it.
Let's note the CR for ravenous does not specify "Multiple instances of ravenous are redundant", which it would do either in a functional or advisory capacity if it was in fact redundant.
“Comboing in Commander is like dunking on a seven foot hoop.” – Dana Roach
“Making a deck that other people want to play against – that’s Commander.” – Gavin Duggan
"I want my brain to win games, not my cards." – Sheldon Menery
“Making a deck that other people want to play against – that’s Commander.” – Gavin Duggan
"I want my brain to win games, not my cards." – Sheldon Menery