I'm just saying... Everyone knew that Hogaak was the correct ban. Sure, some people said Bridge from Below was the "correct ban" because they knew Wizards would not ban Hogaak or they just have something against the card because it is a "stupid" card to them. But people that play Modern actively and currently knew that Hogaak was the correct ban. I'm going to say that again - we knew that Hogaak was the correct ban, but were fine with Wizards banning whatever the %$#% they wanted to. (mostly because most Modern players could care less if something that does hardly anything is banned)ktkenshinx wrote: ↑2 years agoThe decision to ban Hogaak will be, and should be, made independently from the Bridge ban. If the deck remains broken, they're not going to deliberately avoid Hogaak because they didn't ban enough cards. I can't think of any area in society where a management group will fail to fix a problem and just leave it broken because they already used up their one try. They're just going to ban something new. Could they unban Bridge in a concession to messing up? Maybe but probably not. Many of the arguments against Bridge in the article would still be true, in that it insulates against removal and has strong synergies with Feeder/Altar. Also, can you even imagine what would happen if they banned Hogaak, unbanned Bridge, and then an Altar/Feeder/Bridge Dredge deck got big, forcing them to RE-BAN BRIDGE?? Modern would just break. It seems extremely unlikely Wizards risks that scenario.FoodChainGoblins wrote: ↑2 years agoThere's no point in banning Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis when Bridge from Below already took the ban for it. Everyone knew that Hogaak was the correct ban anyway, but Wizards essentially "told us that they are NOT going to ban Hogaak." So they may as well UNBAN Bridge from Below, a card that hardly ever did anything in Modern, outside of some Bridgevine lists during a Pro Tour when Stitcher's Supplier came out. That's all Bridge from Below ever did.
How do I know? I play a lot of Modern. I move from deck to deck quite frequently. I never used the card, Bridge from Below in Modern until Stitcher's Supplier gave us ... Bridge Vine. Then I got scummed out of a top 8 at a PPTQ and went 2-4 at another PPTQ with it. (did very well in local tournaments, but I'd happily switch that around for how I did at the PPTQs)
They made an appealing argument to ban Bridge from Below? I can make a better argument for at least 10 more Modern cards that is more appealing than that one - Faithless Looting, Ancient Stirrings, heck I can make a better argument for Thoughtseize. I know my opinion is not a popular one, but I will continue to believe that if a card does not "break" Modern on its own, it should NOT be banned for any other reason.
Without milling 8 cards in one shot, I doubt that they would have to re ban Bridge unless they are getting 2-3 Bridges in their yard super early and then finding the other 1-2 super quickly with gobs of mana for Bloodghast triggers and to cast and recast Gravecrawlers. It simply can't be done on 1 turn. It can't be done on turn 3.
Regarding a Preordain unbanning, it just won't happen. Wizards printed a 1U Preordain that flashes back for 4U. They are not going to do it, even if Modern devolves into a turn 1 format eventually. They won't. Likewise with the super underpowered card, Green Sun's Zenith. At this point GSZ would only see play in Elves and some odd Tier 3 or below decks.
After Preordain was banned, Modern players said that the gap between Preordain and Serum Visions was the difference between Black Lotus and Lotus Bloom. After many years, I believe that players are realizing that the gap is actually much smaller than they originally thought. I have played Blue cantrips all my life. I had used them in the past for Control. I had used them to flip Delver of Secrets. And finally as I evolved as a player to Combo, I have used them to set up Combo pieces or find removal for my opponent's hate. I will tell you unabashedly that Preordain is closer to Serum Visions than it is to Ponder. Ponder is actually a very good cantrip, as evidenced by every Blue Legacy deck currently running 4 Brainstorm and 4 Ponder. Preordain is really all that's left, so you see these to fill in gaps in Legacy, as a 2 or 3 of.