Eldrazi Mimic question
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hi, for example I have an Eldrazi Mimic and a Ruination Guide in play. Cast a Vile Aggregate. Copy the Vile aggregate with the mimic.. would eldrazi mimic be a 5/5 total power toughness?
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Yes, the Mimic would end up 5/5 in total. Vile Aggregate enters 4/5 (3 base power from you controlling 3 colorless creatures, +1/+0 from Ruination Guide) so that's what Mimic's base p/t becomes, and it gets the +1/+0 from Ruination Guide on top of that.
I'll mention in passing that Mimic's ability doesn't technically *copy* anything, the term "copy" having very specific meaning in the rules. If Mimic became a copy of Vile Aggregate, it would only be 4/5 because the Guide's effect on the original Aggregate wouldn't be copied, but what Mimic's ability does is look at the entering creature's actual p/t with effects and makes that the Mimic's base p/t, over which effects can apply.
Go to full postI'll mention in passing that Mimic's ability doesn't technically *copy* anything, the term "copy" having very specific meaning in the rules. If Mimic became a copy of Vile Aggregate, it would only be 4/5 because the Guide's effect on the original Aggregate wouldn't be copied, but what Mimic's ability does is look at the entering creature's actual p/t with effects and makes that the Mimic's base p/t, over which effects can apply.
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Yes, the Mimic would end up 5/5 in total. Vile Aggregate enters 4/5 (3 base power from you controlling 3 colorless creatures, +1/+0 from Ruination Guide) so that's what Mimic's base p/t becomes, and it gets the +1/+0 from Ruination Guide on top of that.
I'll mention in passing that Mimic's ability doesn't technically *copy* anything, the term "copy" having very specific meaning in the rules. If Mimic became a copy of Vile Aggregate, it would only be 4/5 because the Guide's effect on the original Aggregate wouldn't be copied, but what Mimic's ability does is look at the entering creature's actual p/t with effects and makes that the Mimic's base p/t, over which effects can apply.
I'll mention in passing that Mimic's ability doesn't technically *copy* anything, the term "copy" having very specific meaning in the rules. If Mimic became a copy of Vile Aggregate, it would only be 4/5 because the Guide's effect on the original Aggregate wouldn't be copied, but what Mimic's ability does is look at the entering creature's actual p/t with effects and makes that the Mimic's base p/t, over which effects can apply.
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thanks for the clarification and explanation. that helps a lot. ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/1-smile-fb.png)
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