[ELD] Torbran, Thane of Red Fell (ZiggyD)

[Rumpy5897]

[Serenade]

AND MY AXE

Love it. Bolt dealing five damage for one? Sure makes aggro/burn more viable in EDH. Ever so much fun with damage doublers. One hopes he has no place in Standard, so he will be cheap.

[Taleran]

MANABARBS

Harsh Mentor

Zo-Zu

Grapeshot

Get those hate cards in this guy makes 1-2 damage effects BRUTAL

[Melua]

Should be an interesting commander for a go-wide aggro strategy. Red has plenty of ways to get 1/1s or spread burn effects

[Legend]

Will be going into Purphoros

[Serenade]

Citadel
Of
PAIN

[Taleran]

Oh this is super spicy with

Mana Clash

[pierreb]

Just realized he is a virtual 4/4...

[The Fluff]

a dwarf with a war axe. Looks like they're trying to bring back dwarves to mtg.

[Wallycaine]

Just realized he is a virtual 4/4...

Sort of, though he has issues with multiple creatures. He can kill a 3/3 and a 1/1, but he can't kill 2 2/2's. Damage assignment and replacement effects are weird.

[Sojourner Dusk]

Cavalcade of Calamity decks just got reach for finishing against lifegain. Shock becomes Galvanic Blast, Chandra's Pyrohelix is a double Lightning Bolt. Judith. Mayhem Devil. And all your red creatures effectively get +2/+0.

I think this fits in the category of "4-drop that can win you the game".

[pierreb]

Sort of, though he has issues with multiple creatures. He can kill a 3/3 and a 1/1, but he can't kill 2 2/2's. Damage assignment and replacement effects are weird.

Uh what? Are you sure? I would have thought he could kill two 3/3: assign 1 damage to each, each receives 1+2 damage. I understand he could not kill 4 1/1.

[CalebLost]

Sort of, though he has issues with multiple creatures. He can kill a 3/3 and a 1/1, but he can't kill 2 2/2's. Damage assignment and replacement effects are weird.

Uh what? Are you sure? I would have thought he could kill two 3/3: assign 1 damage to each, each receives 1+2 damage. I understand he could not kill 4 1/1.

You need to assign lethal before you can assign damage to the second creature, and combat assignment ignore replacement effects.
In the example he kills 1/1 + 3/3 because you assign 1 to the 1/1 (lethal) and the extra 1 to the 3/3 then the replacement deals 3 and 3 killing both. But with two 2/2 you have to assign 2 to the first and stop then becoming 4 damage

[Dusk]

Sort of, though he has issues with multiple creatures. He can kill a 3/3 and a 1/1, but he can't kill 2 2/2's. Damage assignment and replacement effects are weird.

Uh what? Are you sure? I would have thought he could kill two 3/3: assign 1 damage to each, each receives 1+2 damage. I understand he could not kill 4 1/1.

You need to assign lethal before you can assign damage to the second creature, and combat assignment ignore replacement effects.
In the example he kills 1/1 + 3/3 because you assign 1 to the 1/1 (lethal) and the extra 1 to the 3/3 then the replacement deals 3 and 3 killing both. But with two 2/2 you have to assign 2 to the first and stop then becoming 4 damage

For reference, the rule in question is 510.1c

[Impossible]

Cavalcade of Calamity decks just got reach for finishing against lifegain. Shock becomes Galvanic Blast, Chandra's Pyrohelix is a double Lightning Bolt. Judith. Mayhem Devil. And all your red creatures effectively get +2/+0.

I think this fits in the category of "4-drop that can win you the game".

Cavalcade was my first thought as well. It's already a borderline Standard deck, and this gives it a lot more punch and a reason to play more lands and go a bit bigger than "36 1-drops + 4 Cavalcade". For example, Cavalcade into 3-mana Chandra into Gimli here is 6 damage before blocks on curve. That's no joke.

[pierreb]

For reference, the rule in question is 510.1c

/me shake fist at the modified combat assigment rules. #PineForOldDays

[Sojourner Dusk]

I am somewhat disappointed that Torbran was singled out from the other triple color Legends. Linden, Gadwick, Ayara, and Yorvo can all be cast for three colored mana, I imagine it would have been far too strong at 3 CMC, but WotC must have wanted a stronger effect than War Jaya.

The Standard implications make this a card that may end up needing to be answered the Turn it hits the board. I don't know if it has the potential for Modern though.

I'm laughing at the amplification this creates in Magical Christmas Land. Chandra's Outrage deals 10 damage for 4 mana and kills up to an X/6. Cindervines is much stronger. Flame Sweep lets your ground X/3s live. but kills your opponents' X/4s. Skewer the Critics adds grievous injury on top of already suffered injury for .

I have a feeling I'll be seeing this card a lot over the next two years.