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- ktkenshinx
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By popular demand! What card(s) do you want BANNED in Modern next Monday? Vote for your selections and discuss.
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voted for Karn Great Creator, Hogaak, and Faithless Looting
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Voted for Hogaak, Faithless Loothing, Ancient Stirrings and Wrenn.
If they just ban Hogaak we just go back to how the meta was before MH and that is a Loothing meta. UR Phoenix, Mono red prowess, dregde.....If Loothing goes so should Stirrings. In return Tron benefits more from the London mulligan.
Wrenn will go eventually so might as well ban him now. He makes no positive impact on the format because all his abilities are only good vs fair decks preventing them to enter the format.
Edit: I forgot to add Scale up, Devoted Druid and Neoform. All offenders of the turn 4 rule
If they just ban Hogaak we just go back to how the meta was before MH and that is a Loothing meta. UR Phoenix, Mono red prowess, dregde.....If Loothing goes so should Stirrings. In return Tron benefits more from the London mulligan.
Wrenn will go eventually so might as well ban him now. He makes no positive impact on the format because all his abilities are only good vs fair decks preventing them to enter the format.
Edit: I forgot to add Scale up, Devoted Druid and Neoform. All offenders of the turn 4 rule
I voted for Hogaak and Tron lands
Hogaak is simply busted and we all know the details, no need to say much about it
Tron lands because of the effect they create on the overall format:
Midrange strategies can't really race tron so it incentivises the meta to go under it by playing more aggresive decks and less midrange decks, this means that aggro decks can be more streamlined since they don't have to worry that much about other strategies stopping their plan, they can now focus on being faster.
This leads to games where it's all about sequencing your cards correctly no matter what you have in front of you (which by the way is how Tron plays most games), these kind of games are not very enjoyable to play nor watch and as a player I don't feel like I've outplayed my opponent if I win this way, it feels as if the deck is the one winning because of its clear streamlined plan and I am there simply shuffling and sequencing plays as a computer would.
Hogaak is simply busted and we all know the details, no need to say much about it
Tron lands because of the effect they create on the overall format:
Midrange strategies can't really race tron so it incentivises the meta to go under it by playing more aggresive decks and less midrange decks, this means that aggro decks can be more streamlined since they don't have to worry that much about other strategies stopping their plan, they can now focus on being faster.
This leads to games where it's all about sequencing your cards correctly no matter what you have in front of you (which by the way is how Tron plays most games), these kind of games are not very enjoyable to play nor watch and as a player I don't feel like I've outplayed my opponent if I win this way, it feels as if the deck is the one winning because of its clear streamlined plan and I am there simply shuffling and sequencing plays as a computer would.
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Voted hogaak only.
The rest of the format is obscured by the obvious hogaak dominance so I would hold off of any other bans until we see what we are actually dealing with.
The rest of the format is obscured by the obvious hogaak dominance so I would hold off of any other bans until we see what we are actually dealing with.
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I'd be fine with just a Hogaak ban but I have been getting closer to just asking myself if it's time that faithless looting got the ban, even if it nerfs random fair decks like Mardu Pyro
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Hogaak and Lattice. War Karn without the lock makes it a much more reasonable deck to play against.
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