Niv-Mizzet Reborn - Astral-Living-Genesis
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Nothing new has caught my attention. Orcus, Prince of Undeath was about the only bi-colored card that I looked at but its not a "cheat" card as you have to invest tons of mana to get value which is not what the deck looks to do.
Hopefully something neat will come out of Innistrad: Midnight Hunt.
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What do you think of Dire-Strain Rampage for ramp?
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March of the Machine has a bag of bi-colored goodies for the deck.
Halo Forager can target a Living End or Hypergenesis in your graveyard.
Quintorius, Loremaster can also cast spells from graveyard, so you can target Living End/Hypergenesis but also other enablers Primevals' Glorious Rebirth/Pyrrhic Revival/etc.
Mistmeadow Vanisher gives another cheaper to cast blink enabler.
Hidetsugu and Kairi allows putting a drawn Living End/Hypergenesis back on top of library. It is possible to setup Hidetsugu and Kairi to die to then cast them from top of library (or some other big spell). But usually it's to set it up with another cascade spell.
Kogla and Yidaro is a replacement for Wear // Tear to even out color distribution.
Halo Forager can target a Living End or Hypergenesis in your graveyard.
Quintorius, Loremaster can also cast spells from graveyard, so you can target Living End/Hypergenesis but also other enablers Primevals' Glorious Rebirth/Pyrrhic Revival/etc.
Mistmeadow Vanisher gives another cheaper to cast blink enabler.
Hidetsugu and Kairi allows putting a drawn Living End/Hypergenesis back on top of library. It is possible to setup Hidetsugu and Kairi to die to then cast them from top of library (or some other big spell). But usually it's to set it up with another cascade spell.
Kogla and Yidaro is a replacement for Wear // Tear to even out color distribution.
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I've done quite a bit of swapping around and trying cards.
The Balrog of Moria is a nice new one from LotR, another big body and has cycling with upside of making treasures.
The Balrog of Moria is a nice new one from LotR, another big body and has cycling with upside of making treasures.
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Doctor Who set has quite a few bi-colored cards.
Lunar Hatchling is the first land cycling creature since Alara Reborn, so I'm happy to include it as part of the original flavor of the deck.
The Fugitive Doctor does a very similar role as Quintorius, Loremaster, but a little less risky. Just swapping them for the purpose of better color distribution.
Older cards that I think will make the deck better are Deathleaper, Terror Weapon and Kardur, Doomscourge.
Lunar Hatchling is the first land cycling creature since Alara Reborn, so I'm happy to include it as part of the original flavor of the deck.
The Fugitive Doctor does a very similar role as Quintorius, Loremaster, but a little less risky. Just swapping them for the purpose of better color distribution.
Older cards that I think will make the deck better are Deathleaper, Terror Weapon and Kardur, Doomscourge.
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How do you feel about the LOTR common landcyclers? They can't be found by Niv but they are extremely efficient
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I've always been on auto-pilot when it comes to cycling focusing on bi-colored, so didn't even consider them.TheAmericanSpirit wrote: ↑7 months agoHow do you feel about the LOTR common landcyclers? They can't be found by Niv but they are extremely efficient
There are other bi-colored cards that have cycling, but I've always focused on land cyclers to make sure hit land drops.
I had a look at all the mono-colored creatures that have landcycling and the LOTR are the only ones that cost , so I see their value.
I do think you could play a version with all 4 LOTR creature landcyclers and take out 4 lands, as they are pseudo lands. Most likely 4 of the tri-colored lands.
Currently the deck has 35 lands plus 7 landcycling cards, so it's sort of like a 42 land deck, but obviously with more investment into producing the manabase.
So even though it would seem bad to go down to 31 lands, you would still be playing 11 landcyclers.
These would actually give you a first turn play (cycling a creature), which the deck doesn't have.
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Alright so Modern Horizon 3 just dropped some bi-colored modal lands!
Now they are not particularly great in this deck for actually what the spells are if casted, but rather they represent a way to get better percentages of hits from Niv-Mizzet Reborn trigger, and represent lands that you can get from him.
Also the more cards you get in hand, the more cards you can discard to hand size setting up your graveyard for Living End.
Waterlogged Teachings is good, there are a number of instants in the deck including a cascade in Violent Outburst.
Rush of Inspiration is okay if you don't want to lose a card like a cascade for example, but the rest of the deck is truly fine with discarding at random, and even can help to fill graveyard with another fatty.
Drowner of Truth is another body, nothing fancy.
Bloodsoaked Insight got some potential, certainly would only cost a lot of the time for a bit of extra value.
Strength of the Harvest and Glasswing Grace as auras are not very exciting, but you can put them into play with Hypergenesis giving a boost.
Suppression Ray realistically not going to cast it, but maybe if you are down to a single opponent this could be a finishing play.
Unfortunetely the Boris, Golgari, Gruul bi-colored modal lands are under 3 mana so don't work with the cascade.
I'm happy to play these over some of the tri-colored cycling lands. I'm fine doing this as the Astral Slide part of the deck is the least frequent part of how this deck plays out and so having come into play tapped lands already, a straight swap doesn't change much. Color-fixing itself I don't have problems with either with all the land cycling fixing colors with already existing bi-colored lands.
Also tri-colored lands have really shot up in price over the years, and they have never really been that good costing a full to cycle. So for anybody wanting to put the deck together this will help with budget.
Now they are not particularly great in this deck for actually what the spells are if casted, but rather they represent a way to get better percentages of hits from Niv-Mizzet Reborn trigger, and represent lands that you can get from him.
Also the more cards you get in hand, the more cards you can discard to hand size setting up your graveyard for Living End.
Waterlogged Teachings is good, there are a number of instants in the deck including a cascade in Violent Outburst.
Rush of Inspiration is okay if you don't want to lose a card like a cascade for example, but the rest of the deck is truly fine with discarding at random, and even can help to fill graveyard with another fatty.
Drowner of Truth is another body, nothing fancy.
Bloodsoaked Insight got some potential, certainly would only cost a lot of the time for a bit of extra value.
Strength of the Harvest and Glasswing Grace as auras are not very exciting, but you can put them into play with Hypergenesis giving a boost.
Suppression Ray realistically not going to cast it, but maybe if you are down to a single opponent this could be a finishing play.
Unfortunetely the Boris, Golgari, Gruul bi-colored modal lands are under 3 mana so don't work with the cascade.
I'm happy to play these over some of the tri-colored cycling lands. I'm fine doing this as the Astral Slide part of the deck is the least frequent part of how this deck plays out and so having come into play tapped lands already, a straight swap doesn't change much. Color-fixing itself I don't have problems with either with all the land cycling fixing colors with already existing bi-colored lands.
Also tri-colored lands have really shot up in price over the years, and they have never really been that good costing a full to cycle. So for anybody wanting to put the deck together this will help with budget.