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Post by 3drinks » 5 months ago

Good afternoon. user tstorm and I from mtgsally discussed my taking over the role of this community activity on these boards, so that is what I'll do. Since there's no time like the present, let's go ahead and start! Mods please sticky this thread.
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Post by 3drinks » 5 months ago

Thursday, July 4th, 2019; Waterwhirl!

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Post by cryogen » 5 months ago

Hey awesome! Glad someone is going to continue the tradition we started so many years ago.
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Post by toctheyounger » 5 months ago

Wouldn't be the same without it.

I didn't even know this card existed, and I got a box of Dragons. It's....alright I guess. It's instant so there's that. It could see some play in like a fairly casual God-Eternal Kefnet build maybe.

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Post by Bookstooge » 5 months ago

Completely new here. I found mtgSal just as the announcement went up about it closing down, so I never signed up.

My cents on the card. Way overcosted. Unless you're running some mono-blue bounce kind of deck, where you need every single bounce'y card, there are many other cards that'll do this for a lot less. Unless there is something about "2 creatures" that you really need to play off of.

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Post by RedCheese » 5 months ago

Random Card of the day will never end

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Post by kraus911 » 5 months ago

Pretty clearly a limited card, but if I had to put it in an EDH deck it can reset ninjas, clear a path for ninjas, and do damage in Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow

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Post by rujasu » 5 months ago

I don't believe there's a strictly better version of this available, but yeah, I can't imagine wanting to pay six mana for this even in a really casual/budget deck.

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Post by tstorm823 » 5 months ago

The only deck of the many I've played that might consider this was Myojin of Seeing Winds, where bounce spells became draw 10+ cards, so I had 10+ bounce effects (and I'm pretty sure I never played this one).
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Post by SocorroTortoise » 5 months ago

rujasu wrote:
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I don't believe there's a strictly better version of this available, but yeah, I can't imagine wanting to pay six mana for this even in a really casual/budget deck.
There's at least a couple: Mystic Confluence and Quicksilver Geyser.

This is way too overcosted for me to even consider it, especially when there are much better options available. It's not niche enough to merit running as copy #3 of the effect either. I'd rather go to either mass bounce, sorcery speed with more upside, or repeatable activated abilities over this 100% of the time.
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Post by void_nothing » 5 months ago

Ouch. Inauspicious start. None too great removal even in Limited - I never need the bounce redundancy that bad (although Quicksilver Geyser isn't "strictly better" in cases of land creatures).

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Post by 3drinks » 5 months ago

Whew, it's been a long and crazy weekend, and it's only just started. Here's our card for July 5th, 2019.

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Post by rogerandover » 5 months ago

There's Withdraw, which most likely will be used to bounce one or two of your own guys. But technically, it could do the same as Waterwhirl.

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Post by tstorm823 » 5 months ago

I'm a big fan of Earthquake and Hurricane, they're wrath effects from the less conventional wrath colors that you can build around to be Plague Wind-ish. That being said, you can't build your way to avoiding both, making Heaven // Earth not totally appealing to me, and the lack of player damage is huge. I've killed people with Earthquake a lot.

Might consider it in a jund graveyard based deck as looting value.
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Post by Bookstooge » 5 months ago

I'd have to choose Lavalanche over this just because of it dealing damage to the player as well. Maybe I'd run this if I were creating a very creature light deck and I needed some sweepers.

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Post by Henlock » 5 months ago

As a wrath it is very expensive and red has access to better ones. Against flyers it is underwhelming. Not hitting players is bad, as squall line and Hurricane may double as powerful finishers.

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Post by rujasu » 5 months ago

Eh, on the other hand, it's awkward to have a sweeper in your hand and you can't use it because it kills you. But how often are you going to be that defensive in a R/G deck?

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Post by 3drinks » 5 months ago

July 6th, 2019. Patchwork Gnomes.

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Wow, I haven't seen a card this bad in a long time, and I've justified some pretty narrowly useful cards over the years.
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Post by tstorm823 » 5 months ago

If nothing else, it's a free discard outlet. Gotta get your hand empty for Barren Glory somehow.
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Post by void_nothing » 5 months ago

There are better and cheaper free discard outlets, fwiw, but hey - this is colorless.

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Post by 3drinks » 5 months ago

Oh, it's a choice. I glanced at it when I got the random card and thought it was a random discard. Which of course would be beyond awful.

"here's a three mana 2/1 in colourless, but you only can protect it with random discards." Tch, just give me Masticore already smdh.
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Post by rogerandover » 5 months ago

Fits into the garden.gnomes.dec, if nothing else.

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Post by Jivanmukta » 5 months ago

Gnome tribal is thankfully wildly unsupported.
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Post by Henlock » 5 months ago

I haven't played it or seen it played really but it's good to know there's a colorless unconditional discard outlet shall it be needed...

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Post by Dragonlover » 5 months ago

Yeah the only time I can see running this is some really odd madness build where you don't have access to blue or black.

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