I am looking for Versions of the deck for after the potential Hogaak (PLEASE) from today. Has anybody been thinking about that yet? I think we will be running the same lists (the ones without MB Rest in Peace that is), and maybe just cut down to 1 Surgical main, or even 0. Only the sideboard plan w...

I'm going to my local FNM on Friday and I'm wondering which tron variation I should play. Which do you guys think is strongest? Green Tron without Karn Liberated and Ugin The Spirit Dragon? or Eldrazi Tron without 4 Chalice and no Leyline in the side (both with Creator Karn + wishboard package) I d...

I know that for me personally, it's not just that they printed stupid, busted, strong cards, it's the stark contrast between them printing busted cards left and right and the absolute utmost conservatism they show with the laughable management of the banlist. The lack of understanding that allowed ...

I also bet Hogaak is a Maro card. He always gets the most busted design's through. :p I believe both are more than capable at remaining in the head of Magic, however when it comes to Modern in particular (and probably legacy/vintage) I HIGHLY doubt they have the depth of understanding, or share a s...

I mean, let's not start bashing MH1 just for Hogaak now. I think overgeneralizations like "Aaron and MaRo are not capable any more", or that the design team is incompetent, or that they have no grasp of formats or whatever are plainly false. The game is bigger than it has ever been, with a...

Been watching some SCG Team coverage. It's a lot of Urzas, a TON of Gaaks, and the mix of their MUs :P. In a way, kinda glad we don't get to see coverage of the awful GPs with the Gaak. Currently watching UW control vs Gaak, impressively UW won G1, but it was PAINFUL to watch how much he had to stru...

Fun stats on Hogaak... https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/1162367555136294912 Well,if you don't wanna play Hogaak then play Red Phoenix/Prowess or Humans, the only two decks with a meaningful positive win ratio against the deck. For this and next weekends, if I was playing, which sadly I am no...

Personally, I love the Temur Moon and Grixis Green lists with W6. They seem super spicy and you get to leverage the modern legal Baleful Strix, because you can play snow lands. Temur Moon? That sounds interesting. I've zero experience with it though, what is a sample decklist? I would suggest start...

Another deck that people forget, mistakenly imho, is UW Spirits. One of the reasons that UW stoneblade is a thing in legacy is because of True Name Nemesis. We don't have that in modern, but UW Spirits players can easily make-their-own-TNN with a single/double captain AND have the evasion that is s...

I would like to interject that, while any UW player who says the deck won't play SFM is being disingenuous, playing SFM to see if it's good enough to stick is NOT the same as playing it as a part of the stock main board that never gets cut. Of course UW will play it, but the question is whether or ...

Personally, I love the Temur Moon and Grixis Green lists with W6. They seem super spicy and you get to leverage the modern legal Baleful Strix, because you can play snow lands.

The existence of data is the reason we know FOR A FACT that Hogaak is broken and not through individual play experience. Sure we don't have the complete 5-0 league data, but we do have enough I would say. Which is weird how many people were telling me the exact opposite when I shared that experienc...

I do not appreciate this complete and utter dismissal of experience in a world where we do not have data and Wizards actively hides and distorts data. Except that this is not very accurate. We had full meta-game reports for D1 and D2 of the Pro Tour, Channel Fireball has been giving us almost compl...

is Hogaak the only thing to talk about? Yes, honestly. Hogaak has warped the meta so much there isn't really much else to talk about. Step 1, 2 and 3 of designing your deck atm should be "how do I beat Hogaak?" before considering anything else in the meta. I see no reason for the deck not...

So...question. Scenario assumes hogaak eats a ban. I'm really considering building eldrazi tron out and I'm not missing much, but I am missing chalices. How integral to the meta post hogaak do you think chalice is gonna be? I know it beats up on Phoenix/burn pretty well. Trying to think of replacem...

Slightly off topic: I think this period of time is deserving of a name, like eldrazi winter or black summer from years past. I could think of any good names. Gaak summer? Arisen season? Summer of hogs? I think these are pretty bad, who has a good name? I think in the future, just saying Hogaak will...

I guess Hogaak has plot armor for being in a new product. WoTC needs him to give them more income before getting banned. I just want to say that this is not really a valid argument. If people know that the card will be banned anyway, and we know it by now more or less, why would they buy the produc...

People (ME) need to realize this more. Sad, but true. The sooner one accepts that our views and desires are not going to align with a for profit corporation's, the better for our mental state. No way does Wizard's plan 3+ years in advance when thinking about the ban list and what could or could not...

I generally agree with most of the statements being made, I think, and it was discussed in the past as well, that we need to define interactivity in some form of scale or spectrum. Currently, I think we can say that we have some decks that are unquestionably interactive, some that are debated, and s...

On the topic of pillars for UW Control, as someone who plays a lot of control, it's not a single card. It's Path, it's Detention Sphere, it's T5feri, it's Field of Ruin, it's the sweepers. The true "pillar" of UW Control is the concept that the deck can answer anything. This is why contro...

That said, I do think Modern decks are actively putting themselves at a disadvantage if they aren't built around the following Modern pillars: Mox Opal, Ancient Stirrings, Faithless Looting, Serum Visions/Opt, Thougthseize/Inquisition of Kozilek, Aether Vial/Noble Hierarch. Eldrazi Tron gets away w...

Although admittedly I haven't played modern (or magic) in a couple of months due to work, I have been following most of the results, and I will attempt a take, and please correct me if I am wrong. I think modern, at this point, and in a sort time period after MH, has moved from a wide open format wi...

agreed gsz and sfm being banned at this point is a bad joke that has gone on too long. having these cards banned makes it very difficult to take modern seriously. at what point does the state of the banned list is delegitimize modern or has it already happened? For many players of other formats, it...

Daniel Fournier's list is by no means the norm. I had already seen it, hence I mentioned that some lists run 1 RiP main, but again, it's just 1 case in a sea of 4x Snapcaster UW control decks. What idSurge post is more or less a basis for what is considered stock list now for UW control. Regarding U...

I mean, UW is currently solidly Tier 1, winning two large tournaments in the past weeks, putting up results left and right. At the same time Jund sees a TON of success post MH. So I am not sure how you see all the best decks being either prison locks of fast aggro/combo. I mean, there are these dec...