I've recently started playing Legacy after exclusively playing Modern for years and this has given me a very different perspective of how to manage overpowered/broken cards. They could ban Urza and Oko OR they could print Red Elemental Blast into Modern. Banning these cards (or the threat of a ban) ...

After the past month of getting familiar with Legacy I have to say that I really enjoy the games a lot more than Modern despite the fact that I lose a lot more of them. My win/loss rate probably has to do with my unfamiliarity with the format, I hope that my enjoyment of the format is not also just ...

Card like plague Engineer need to exist and if anything we need more of them as well for other strategies as well. If anything it's one of the more important cards introduced from Modern Horizons as it's a hate card that needs to be in place for modern. Hopefully we get more answers that are this s...

I was just reading a Jim Davis article title " Fixing the Design Mistakes of 2019." It was basically what you would expect; how to fix Oko, OuaT, Teferi, Veil, etc. However, there was one card that caught my attention, which I was not expecting to see on the list: plague engineer . The mor...

More broadly, because there are lots of planeswalkers running around it makes sense to pack mainboard hate. Planeswalker removal is often underpriced compared to creature removal/direct damage. I don't see planeswalkers going anywhere in the near future so we have to adapt. Outside of the narrow sp...

Karn+Lattice lockout is really unfun to play against. However, the increasing prevalence across the meta makes it easy to plan for. For example, in Goblins I can vial in munitions expert or goblin cratermaker and destroy Karn for 0 or 1 mana. This is a great mana trade off and cannot be countered t...

Perhaps Karn, the Great Creator is needed against decks like Urza type decks? But it is now IN Urza type decks. This is a bad sign; a sign that something needs to go or something needs to change. I don't think this is a real concern. Urza decks want their artifacts in the mainboard while Karn wants...

Karn+Lattice lockout is really unfun to play against. However, the increasing prevalence across the meta makes it easy to plan for. If you aren't building your Modern deck with ways to remove planeswalkers instantly then you are doing it wrong. On the other hand, destroying Karn in response to Latti...

I'm not quite sure how to measure this. A scale seems the right way to go about it, but I think the original suggested metric is incorrect for this reason. (Value - investment)/turns seems to be somewhere in the ballpark, and it can account for both mana acceleration and additional cards drawn with...

That's not a bad idea. I struggle to think of decks that are linear and interactive, and I imagine those measures (if separate) would be highly correlated. I'll probably collapse them or just keep them focused on measuring interaction. Sultai Whirza and 5C Humans. Amulet Titan and various Death Sha...

You could consider changing the term "fairness" with efficiency. People have different views of fairness but mana efficiency is indisputable. Basically 0 would be on curve +1 would be most efficient possible (ie Tron lands) -1 would be least efficient/unfair. I don't mind this idea, but I...

[mention]ktkenshinx[/mention] I like what you are trying to do with this classification system. I would suggest trying to reduce dimensionality to only two dimensions if possible. Doing any sort of analysis will be must easier if you only have two dimensions and it will still give you lots of differ...

D&T and Goblins being prison decks in no way shape or form change the fact that they are playing 25+ creatures and win by turning creatures sideways. They are creature decks through and through. I think people may different conceptions of what makes a "creature deck." For example, I d...

Welcome to the State of Legacy Thread! This is the unofficial place to discuss the latest about the greatest format in the history of Magic. Legacy has no problems (FoW handles those on sight) but sometimes it's good to talk about the latest tech or the new trends as they occur. Sometimes it's even ...

https://twitter.com/CubeApril/status/1201647505898983424 Answer: No Modern Horizons got me excited about Modern again after 5yr hiatus. The format may be unhealthy but I'm very happy I'm playing it again. They took a huge risk with MH. I think it was a good idea. Even if the outcome was suboptimal ...

Also if the ban mania stays in full force next year it will kill consumer confidence in the format. Again I re iterate the only people I have met who currently enjoy this format are brewing and playing it casually between themselves. The format at the high levels is a bunch of linear decks pretendi...

FYI, legacy dredge lands are CHEAP! (LED is not though) Manaless dredge or a few other decks have decent mana bases, UB deaths shadow uses shock lands, reanimator works in mono black pretty well, and then there is always belcher which will work just fine off of a stomping ground, and burn does exis...

Man...I wish I had. 1. A local legacy scene. 2. A desire to drop the $$$ on the lands it would take to play it. Blue Magic, remains the best Magic. I've got a huge legacy collection at this point. I'm thinking of getting rid of it because there's no local scene. But, something I've found interestin...

Here's what I'm wondering: If WotC stops supporting Modern, will people stop playing it? Even if Hasbro pushes arena and pioneer/commander until Modern effectively dies, people will still have physical cards. I'll still play Modern with my friends even if WotC doesn't support it. How many other peo...

If I owned WOTC I would ban any card on the reserve list in ALL formats. Some would say this would destroy legacy and vintage, but that's already been destroyed by the barrier to entry imo. Problem solved! Shock lands are only bad in legacy because everyone else has duals. If you ban duals then you...

What I think is that if the reserve list is as done as they say it is. Open up modern to be legacy lite already. Amp up the answers and get dual lands that are both snow and check lands: Fetid Sea - Snow Island Swamp Fetid Sea comes into play tapped unless you control ANOTHER Swamp or Island Win fo...

Here's what I'm wondering: If WotC stops supporting Modern, will people stop playing it? It all depends on whether or not you find Modern "fun." A lot of people do not, and have not for a while. And between the exhausting year of bad design and the introduction of a new format, feelings f...

Here's what I'm wondering: If WotC stops supporting Modern, will people stop playing it? Even if Hasbro pushes arena and pioneer/commander until Modern effectively dies, people will still have physical cards. I'll still play Modern with my friends even if WotC doesn't support it. How many other peop...

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Exile target creature or Planeswalker. It's controller may search their library for a basic land card and put it into play. That player then shuffles their library.

Re: permanents vs. spells and Magic health generally I can't emphasize this point enough. For anyone who claims Modern is in some uniquely bad shape as a result of Wizards' decisions this is not true. Contemporary Magic as a whole is in serious trouble as a result of this recent history of horrible...