Hey toctheyounger Re: Chthonian Nightmare. Hear me out - would you want to have an animate dead with buyback: sacrifice a creature? If not, that's cool. I want that though! It doesn't need to be instant speed to be good. If it had that, it would be banned a la recurring nightmare . You can use it mu...

pokken We agree on Final Act , I just thought it was worth mentioning in general. Spymaster's Vault does seem very strong to me as well. I wonder what the other colors will get if this is a cycle. Also, eagerly awaiting the black free spell for Varina. The white and blue one's are very strong but n...

Anyone want to discuss a couple other relevant spoilers? Links to spoilers in bulleted list below: Warren Soultrader (obvious staple is obvious) Spymaster's Vault (New connive utility land) Ripples of Undeath (Black Sylvan Library ) Chthonian Nightmare (Fixed Recurring Nightmare) Final Act (New blac...

Wasnt sure it was real until I saw a picture of it. Funny the last time I posted I was wishing for a new efficient zombie and the prayers were answered! I dub thee Altar Zombie lol

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New Geralf is a combo enabler with plenty of aggro upside at 3cmc. It has value without the presence of a combo. If necroduality were 3cmc would you consider it? That's kind of how I see this new tool. Its def not a zombie though. Doesnt trigger Varina. Awkward, but powerul card. I might try it out...

New Geralf is a combo enabler with plenty of aggro upside at 3cmc. It has value without the presence of a combo. If necroduality were 3cmc would you consider it? That's kind of how I see this new tool. Its def not a zombie though. Doesnt trigger Varina. Awkward, but powerul card. I might try it out ...

Geralf, the fleshwright seems good

anyone planning to test out any of the new fallout cards? I don't think the zombies make the cut, unfortunately. A new undying zombie is relevant however in Hancock, Ghoulish Mayor . Jason Bright, Glowing Prophet is pretty interesting and probably works well in some builds. Raul, Trouble Shooter is ...

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sauron's ransom seems not too bad. Casting before Varina to hit lands is nice. Filling the yard late is also nice.

This card seems very good to me, I concur! interesting FoF variant.

I don't like that it doesn't help you hit land drops and that's most of what I want to do with my 1-2 mana spells that are not zombies...because zombies help you hit your land drops too. I would play another functional copy of Lazotep Reaver a thousand times before I'd play this card. And you shoul...

Horn of the mark seems pretty well suited in low to the ground, creature-dense Varina builds that prioritize attacking and triggering Varina. Makes it easier to choose what to keep and what to discard, low mana value colorless artifact is easy to cast very early, very synergistic with what the deck...

I got to play last Friday and zombies had a really great showing winning me the only match I played with the deck. The game was fairly slow with the table keeping everything in check. I bounced a couple active hate cards - one was a deathrite shaman and the other was a poison tip archer. My gravecra...

I agree, I have been actually discarding mass reanimate more than casting it lately. I seem to find combos our out-value the table much more frequently then I Mass-reanimate to win. I think you always want to have at least one that you can loop with though. I might drop zombie apocalypse for dread ...

(I am thinking about cutting Tombstone Stairwell well for it myself, since that card has required too much setup and telegraphing for me lately) I keep Stairwell only because it is so much fun when it does work; it's almost certainly too unreliable to be included on merit. I sold both copies of Inv...

Hey everyone it's been a while, just checking out some of the new cards and got caught up on the thread. Cool to see the ebbs and flows of people's zombie builds over time! Nice to see Otherworldly Gaze get some play time and as always Master of Death , which I still feel pretty strongly is an absol...

Gasp.
Frazetta Zombie is beautiful.
New SL Alert.

I think the only things really worth trying to get back (from a deckbuilding standpoint) are the altars, key creatures, removal spells, and game winning sorceries. Luckily we have all the tools to get those things back without too much trouble or bending the Varina deck too far down a rabbit hole. O...

Does Yawgmoth's Will has a spot in this deck? I think here it can be used as a value play to replay a land and possibly another thing or two. In this way it is like a bad Eternal Witness that scales better with mana resources. I think the downside is so anti-synergistic with much of what we do thou...

Saw that Spawning Pit is getting a reprint in jumpstart - and has always been a great sac outlet that is semi-altar-esque. Is this better than Altar of Dementia? I am not sure how to analyze the merit of both cards since the only overlap is the free infinite sac outlet itself. Spawn tokens vs Mill T...

Tormod works much better with the cards that come back and needs very little to operate (Just Varina or a zombie that comes back). Wilhelt relies heavily on the rest of your board and gives you half-zombies. I couldn't fit both so I had to cut Wilhelt personally. I did not enjoy the cut though. He i...

I can't really get myself on Swan Song train because I just find I care too much about creatures; I can't let someone resolve something like an Agent of Treachery or Gilded Drake , so I prioritize generic spells and free ones. Also just so many crazy ass bombs now. I haven't really felt the need to...

re: countermagic suite I consider the hierarchy for Varina to be, in order (although price is a factor ofc) fierce guardianship pact of negation mana drain arcane denial swan song an offer you can't refuse I think it's possible to build a Varina deck that can support Force of Will if you really try...

Reya Good point - Above when I say +1 I mean to say it replaces itself by drawing a card. Saying "net +1" was not correct so I edited my post and fixed that thank you! ponder and brainstorm are neutral on card advantage since there is no net change. The important distinction by pokken is ...

I can see how ponder might be stronger there, but it's not much different if you want to hit lands and you cast that spell on T1-2. If anything you could argue that otherworldly gaze is even stronger because if you cast it on T1 to try and hit a land, you can flashback the card again on T2 to try t...

That is a valid point but the situations where that would screw you are if you draw this specific card instead of your 3-4th land which would be super duper improbable. Most of the time you just mitigate that by casting the spell ahead of needing the land. Math I think favors Gaze here in most situ...