I don't think Pioneer is fine. Answers are too weak compared to threats. I think the format needs both bannings and printings to fix the issue, but fundamentally WotC needs to get their heads out of the sand. I don't really want to compare Modern to Pioneer, the continual cross format jockeying for ...

I mean, I get it about Fires, but Yorion hits the deck hard time, especially in Pioneer, you remember how mediocre to bad it was pre-Lukka, pre-Yorion. I think it's possible that with no Yorion, the deck will be at most tier 2, maybe worse. Agent is just one payoff, and quite honestly, isn't he a m...

Ya, I had hoped Yorion would catch some flak there. I agree. After those two, I'd probably wait a little bit and reconsider Fires of Invention; the card doesn't seem to have a middle ground for power, it either breaks something or is a non-factor. Cards like that strike me as good ban targets becaus...

I think you and I should just agree to disagree about the Modern thread. What would your list of ban criteria be? The way I'm reading the data you posted and assuming it's what you consider credible, I would be banning some more than just Lurrus. Maybe not immediately, but there would be more on my ...

I do hope things return to a time when eternal formats were more stable. I'd agree that Pioneer is likely easier to fix than Modern is but we don't actually even know what Pioneer is. The format isn't even a year old, it's never had "pillars" the way Modern had, it's identity is too simila...

You're probably just going to find the same things in this thread as the Modern thread right now only with slightly different issues but very similar. Companion is too pervasive, removal is bad, linear speed and/or cheating mana is king, too much consistency (see companion). Pioneer has it's issues....

I've been thinking about how Companion probably should have been done. I think this is my take on the whole situation. The companions themselves could remain as are minus the Companion ability with the Triomes taking on the adjusted functionality. BUG Triome Land - Swamp Forest Island ---- Homeworld...

I don't watch very often are these aired on twitch?

I don't feel like I'm familiar enough with Prison decks to make too many judgements about them. The times I've encountered the Modern variety of them, I have viewed them as interesting puzzles and half-mirror control matches. I try to stay with one or two formats at most, last I was able to do anyth...

They will actively try to avoid bans in Pioneer, far more so than any other format, because it had such a churn at its inception. Funny thing is that I feel like that's what made it such an interesting format. Nothing was safe at the top so everyone at local levels played unconventional decks. The ...

This gives them both an intermediate format where Standard graduates can go Given that we have three different combo decks sitting at the top or near the top of the meta, I'm not overly confident things are set up to accept "Standard graduates". I'm not a huge fan of combo but I do think ...

I feel like most of the people that follow this thread play in paper or play Modern on MTGO. Since LGSs are all closed I think this thread is pretty stalled for awhile. Maybe I'm mistaken but the drop off seems to have happened once isolation orders started becoming common. From a distance (I only p...

When this thing EtBs do you get to know what they are targeting before you respond to the trigger or do they choose on resolution? The wording is "put" so I'm unsure. I think it's respond with no knowledge?

I think the Godzilla theme is pretty funny. Not for me, but very funny to see. I was honestly very surprised that this even happened.

Is the BAB the only art for that card? If it is, that's my biggest disappointment.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/march-9-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement?j Big ol' nothing banned in Pioneer. Good? Bad? I'm on bad but not unwilling to try things. See if Essence Scatter or Horribly Awry get me anywhere. They address the no change with some down playing of...

The real issue is the "win the game" text on Oracle, let's be more direct about the issue. I think we all know Oracle isn't about to be banned since it's in Standard. The other option is Inverter and I really hate to see Inverter go because it is a very interesting card, but let's be hones...

I feel as though the thread is silent because we all quietly agree with the incoming Inverter of Truth or Thassa's Oracle ban. I certainly have no argument. Does anyone think anything else will go? Maybe a hit to Lotus Breach as well? Honestly, I think the line of text that wins the game is unfortun...

I'm also not exactly ecstatic about the current top level meta either but at least my LGS has avoided it. Though the affect of dodging the combo nonsense has been supplanted with 70ish% aggro decks looking to slide as low as possible under the combo radar. We had a week or two of roughly half and ha...

I control Thassa, Deep-Dwelling and Lazav, the Multifarious . My opponent uses Shadowspear to remove Thassa's indestructible (but also from everything else I have). My opponent then destroys Thassa. I turn Lazav into "Thassa" for 4 mana. Does Lazav have Indestructible? My assumption is yes...

If they weren't foil, I'd be in for a single bundle. The arts are great, but I've seen too many people with bent up drops already.

What decks are you looking to hose with Crypt? I ask because I feel like while yard stuff is common it's more often a sub theme than the center piece of a deck.

Then, they will probably ban older cards like DTT, or Inverter, even if Breach, Thassa's Oracle are huge mistakes and the right bannings. This will happen on either the next Monday or 2 weeks after today. This is what worries me. WotC not wanting to just make the correct ban allows formats to dwell...

I use Thief of Sanity's ability to cast an opponent's Cavalier of Thorns. Cavalier dies later.

Do I get the dies trigger because I controlled it or does my opponent get the trigger because it went to their grave?

Isn't there another PT this weekend? I think that's what you want to watch if you're unsure about Inverter. If the numbers hold, I would expect a ban, if the numbers drop then it's probably safe. I would also note that thus far I've been wrong about Heliod combo. I do feel like Inverter is sort of s...

I was glad to see Joel Larsen won on his Sultai list, but I pretty well agree with Ktk. We need more better answers. The thing about the Inverter combo is that removal doesn't stop it, so it's just another narrow line that can't hardly be interacted with reasonably. Because of this it doesn't encour...