@SaintForthigan Excellent points! I'll give it a shot.

I've made a few minor changes to the list above—update to come soonish. But I'm so, so glad that you enjoy this deck! That makes my day. Let me know what you discover out there with your list.

Thank you!

Crazy Monkey wrote: ↑

4 years ago

The first draft based on the primer template is below.

Looks great!

Hoboz : Oooh, I like that Eldrazi. Particularly nice with a Heartstone in play. snowfox54119 Welcome back! My thoughts on cuts and replacements: I've increased my Goblin density, primarily because of Mana Echoes . I like Furystoke Giant , particularly since my deck has more token production than ev...

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4 years ago

Ominous Seas […] feels winmore.

I agree completely. Thanks for the reality check!

Mjmirobelli If you wind up giving this build a try, please let me know what you think! Back when I would play a few times per week with a dedicated local group, Kruphix got to be known as a powerful value engine. Those regular opponents learned its most powerful pieces (e.g. Seedborn Muse ) and wou...

A brief report on my activity at the roulette table: My research with Mana Echoes continues to be… frankly? A little disgusting. The card opens up so many Epitaph Golem/Soldevi Digger loops. Dimir House Guard, our least useful sac outlet, can tutor it into hand. Mana Echoes is so good in this deck t...

Another day, another Kruphix update! Check the update log for the details…

A quick and boring update: to throw some money at my local game store, I bought some fetches and threw them in here.

Two ideas for Grenzo: Ali from Cairo and/or Fortune Thief. Could be a game-saving flip!

@darrenhabib Hah! True.

And sorry about that Nykthos error—I forgot I threw in a Waterlogged Grove. Decklist and card descriptions updated! But Mikokoro is a good idea; thank you.

FajenThygia Nice! That's a nice meta-dependent hatebear. NoNeedToBragoBoutIt Oh wow! I've often thought while piloting my Grenzo build that I'd love a way to bottom cards directly from my hand—casting spells sometimes feels so frustrating/wasteful with this deck, lol! So I might include Fire Prophe...

Two new sets spoiled, which means we've got some candidates for this deck. Quick first impressions of the cards I'll be trying out in Kruphix: Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy - A great candidate for taking Thrasios, Triton Hero 's spot. While Thrasios provides some [sym=c]-friendly ...

Thanks for the update, snowfox54119 ! I hope you're staying healthy. Just a quick note to say that I got in a Grenzo game this evening and kept an opening hand with Mana Echoes —I was very excited to test it out. And, uhhh, my LORD does that card get absolutely stupid and fast (particularly with Paw...

Can the budget Grenzo keep up with expensive decks? Can it win consistency? How about the funlevel? It seems a bit complicated to pilot, or am I worng? The budget one cost me around 80€.Its pretty much for me. So I must be sure that it is a good strong and fun deck. I've played Grenzo in around 100...

Quick little update to the change log! Scored an extra Mana Drain and Evacuation from a friend.

After jamming a bunch of games on the Play EDH Discord, I made a few potent edits and updated the change log. I also made some small aesthetic changes to the Primer.

If anyone is running a similar list, please let me know. And I hope to see you on that Discord channel!

Have to share one of the best Grenzo starts I've ever had. T1: Ancient Tomb, Leaden Myr T2: Mountain, Treasonous Ogre, Dockside Extornist (3 Treasure), Grenzo T3: Swamp, Soldevi Adnate, Pitiless Plunderer T4: Swamp, Tel-Jilad Stylus… I won on T5 through a Generous Gift targeting Grenzo (he reflipped...

snowfox54119 Interesting! I thought you kept fetches off your list because you didn't want to have to crack them (to not miss a land drop) when you didn't want to shuffle away what you knew was on the bottom. If we were to play and crack 4 fetchlands on the first four turns (fantasy land) then our ...

@snowfox54119 Ahh, I'm honored to hear it! Thank you so much; I'm glad this inspired you to bring Spiderman back to the party. If/when you wind up running it (and what shape your build takes), please let me know!

@snowfox54119 Out of curiosity, if you had no budget restrictions whatsoever for this list, what else would you consider adding?

@sampersand You've got me considering Mana Echoes and Nether Void!

I'm also not a huge fan of Zealous Conscripts in your deck. The only thing it does is combo with kiki jiki, mirror breaker , which already has a ton of other combos. If you flip it without kiki, you're stuck with a 3/3 that *might* steal something helpful. […] Also, why not run more self-discard ca...

The questions I ask and answer about my decks to determine their power level: What's the average CMC? How many removal spells does the deck contain? How many recursion spells does the deck contain? Can the deck win at Instant speed? Does the deck have one or more infinite combos? If uninterrupted, a...

Primer status achieved! Thanks to Rumpy5897 and the rest of the Primer committee here for such helpful and generous edits. I also added a quick update to the change log with one boring but slightly-better addition that's been on my to-do list for a long time… I plan to update this thread with brief ...

Kelzam I've only vaguely considered Krasis in the past—you're right, though, in that the flample, lifegain, card draw, Flourishing synergy, and low devotion footprint make him seem very appealing! I'll consider replacing Mind Spring with him, since Krasis should be a bit easier to cast and is essen...