If you don't want to read a statement, skip over that comment. Half my comment was about urza. The urza deck is a much bigger problem.

Everyone should remain calm or oko will turn you into an elk.

I think twin would be just another good deck on par with humans, GDS and others. Urza is in almost a leuge of its own, not as good as eldrazi winter, hogaak summer and such but on par with KCI, GGT dredge or DRS jund. I'm not sure twin would solve many problems we have but I don't think it would bre...

@Tzoulis would you unhide the tourment results that the snowblade deck faced. I cant figure out how to post it. Wow i don't like that meta. Top 8 turned out ok, but that list of decks he faced is not looking fun to me. Something has to go from the urza deck imo, reasons WOTC can site will be tourna...

Not sure how/why 2015 is so important to the discussion- maybe I missed that in the original post,- sorry if so, I am not trying to wind anyone up - nor I am I sure why there is endless twin debate The focus on 2015 is because it was that year where several criteria listed for its banning was cited...

At the time Twin was banned, we didnt play Probe. When people say 'I wish there was more interaction' they mean BGx, and URx. They mean Discard, Removal, Counters. They mean Abrupt Decay, Bolt, Remand, and IoK. They mean Cryptic Command. They dont mean 'I cast my chalice on 2, thats proactive inter...

Without wishing to discuss twin further, I played Probe, and as I recall most did. Without wishing to say you're lying, because Twin DID use git probe in earlier iterations. However, claims like this are very easily fact checked. And Twin variants have mostly moved away from running it in 2015. May...

I'm not upset by that top 8. I'd like a bit more diversity, but that top 8 Looks ok. The meta game break down is too much whirza IMO but we'll see how the meta keeps shifting. I'm not surprised amulet did so poorly. Oko hits both the amulet and the titan, so what do you expect. what a terrible match...

I'm watching oko's price almost hourly because I'm going to pick some up for use in other formats. His price is actually ticking up since his banning, he is now up almost $3. Do you guys think we will have enough demand in other formats to keep his price this high like field of the dead has proven i...

So..... what are the predictions for tomorrow? I expect: -oko banned in standard. -something banned from the urza deck in modern. (Most likely urza himself, maybe astrolabe or mox opal but either of those by themselves won't weaken the deck enough). -who knows what they will ban in pioneer! (Maybe f...

*******IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER********* WOTC is still making alot of money from modern. Modern horizons was a huge financial success. WOTC supports multiple formats to varying degrees with eternal masters, modern masters, commander decks, and of coarse new sets for standard. They even make fun sets fo...

I am going to continue playing modern as my main format but my LGS is shifting to pioneer instead of modern. If i want to continue to play modern anywhere but my kitchin table I am going to have to drive 45 min each way. Answer: I'm converting several of my weaker modern decks to pioneer. UR pheonix...

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That's sweet, and their answer was even better. Spread it everywhere and maybe it will happen one day. (And bridge from below could be added too.)

People are excited by a new format. I'm building a pioneer deck and so are some of my friends. However none of us are selling out of modern. Many people play more than one format. There is certainly more focus on pioneer at this time from WOTC and the community, no doubt about it, but give it a few ...

I was doing some reading about Oko and I'm finding out some interesting things I didn't realize initially. He is more powerful than I thought. The funniest thing I read was Emrakul becoming an elk.

Is anyone afraid of a bridge from below unban now that faithless looting is banned? Hogaak was the problem and deserved a ban, but bridge no longer has its combo with hogaak and the faithless looting ban weakens it further. I think it should be unbanned and the format won't even notice. Nah. I don'...

Is anyone afraid of a bridge from below unban now that faithless looting is banned? Hogaak was the problem and deserved a ban, but bridge no longer has its combo with hogaak and the faithless looting ban weakens it further. I think it should be unbanned and the format won't even notice.

The Simic Urza build is a mix of a control deck (Cryptic, Explosives, Oko) and artifact synergies with a combo finish (sounds familiar?). This deck relies mostly on the egregious mistake that is Oko to combat the normal hate and it hast mostly the same weaknesses as Whirza, Stony/RiP and big mana. ...

Legacy and modern have been my favorite formats for a long time. Legacy is bigger and has more answers so it hasn't had as many problems IMO. Moderns ban list has been so random from the beginning it has cultivated a culture of complaining. There have been legit reasons to complain, but still.... cu...

Agreed. Oko is fine in Modern, mostly because UG is such an underpowered color combination there. I don't know if this statement is aging well. It's from way back 6 hours ago. I joke, but seriously there are lots of powerful UG decks. I know SCG events are not major events but I saw UG urza taking ...

just suggesting, maybe there should be a "State of Pioneer Thread".. so all the pioneer talk could go there? https://i.postimg.cc/m2JwP3vj/1534722315-6156-smiley.gif I don't disagree, but there is alot of overlap in the formats and its new so people are talking about it. Modern decks port...

Oko looks better and better every time I see him in action in any format. I expect he will end up banned in standard and Pioneer at some point. I will be picking him up for modern, but not at his current price.

What source are you watching these pioneer vids from? YouTube, a twitch channel or a specific website like SCG or something ?

Pioneer is not a format to kill modern, just like modern did not kill legacy. It's not just targeted at ex-modern players, it's also targeted at standard players, it is a format for anyone who wants to play it. I'll try Pioneer but I'll keep playing modern. This sounds like it could be fun.

Twin is annoying so end of story..... That is the weakest arguement I've ever heard against twin or any other card. There are lots of annoying decks that dont need a ban(8 rack?), and worst of all annoyance is subjective. I am now going to stop discussing the value or credibility of robertleva's poi...

I had to make an account just to say this: This thread and the majority of the people posting on it are the laughing stock of a large amount of modern-related discord servers. It might be tough to hear, but the absurd hot takes constantly getting posted on here are screencapped and posted in variou...