Well this thread sure imploded overnight. You guys are honestly just going mental now to the point it's more of a joke than actual discussion. I cant see more than 3 bans happening followed by 1-2 bans a few months later as that's how wizards normally operates. Wizards needs time between bans and e...

Well this thread sure imploded overnight. You guys are honestly just going mental now to the point it's more of a joke than actual discussion. I cant see more than 3 bans happening followed by 1-2 bans a few months later as that's how wizards normally operates. Wizards needs time between bans and ev...

If you read further on you will notice he specifically mentions they don't make those kind of errata changes but only in the likes of things like Teferi only untapping your lands etc. Oko is banned in standard and pioneer and soon to be modern. I'm sure wizards now doesn't even care about the card a...

https://twitter.com/SethManfield/status/1213939834370310150 https://twitter.com/Smdster/status/1213943216271187970 Two relevant tweets. I know it does not matter what we are saying here, but A) Urza or Opal AND oko AND lattice should be banned, and B) We should push and maybe, maybe Wizards could i...

Do you have historical evidence to back up this claim? I find it hard to believe that you have the confidence to make this claim when 2019 Modern is in the lousiest state it's been since Eldrazi Winter. There's some problematic cards right now, but out of the issues in Modern that's about the 5th o...

You can of course deal with him in legacy, he just currently has more impact on that format than Jace. Most lists are running 0-1 jace in legacy now for one

I would argue Oko is stronger than jace in every single format in the game including vintage

Maybe I should not use it, I know it's your money and your deck we are takling about. I used it because I noticed a difference with some other similar ultra unfun decks. This deck is powerful just because it utilizes Urza in a great shell. Being such a toxic deck and being kind of powerful, is a fe...

I can't imagine me having fun playing against this pile that try to destroy your lands in the way it does, while playing really powerful cards and having a decent plan B. I don't believe this deck will dominate modern, but it's an extremely ugly list. Anyways, I am not basing any bans off of this. ...

We know League data is incredibly flawed. At least I do (and have frequently argued its irrelevance). At this point, we just have to point and laugh at the Urza/Opal/Oko decks and how it doesn't seem to matter how you build them, they do well regardless. I wouldn't exactly call 3x 5-0 league result...

Modern shows it's ugly face again in another Urza - Mox Opal variant, that's got to be one of the better, but powerful toxic decks I have ever seen in my life. January, 20th can't come soon enough, so that Urza/Opal, Veil, Oko all get banned into oblivion. LOL.png Why are you pulling a deck that on...

Well the support for Legacy drastically tailed off when Modern came along, and they killed extended, which was the obvious format to die. The parallels are there, for one to thrive the other must suffer. They can support multiple formats, but only so many. Look at the announcement to end extended.....

I just don't agree. Modern is having problems, but they will be addressed soon. When modern was made WOTC did not intentionally hurt legacy or standard. The modern player base has frequently complained so it is not a surprise we are complaining at the time a new format is developing, that is likely...

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Oh, I dont know about that. Honestly this thread has become a general discussion on Magic alone, not so much Modern.

Card's that matter to Modern alone, are a minority in the extreme.

Guess that's what happens when you print legacy level threats in standard. Every format in the game takes a hit

The same Arena team that took over a year to add a basic feature such as a friends list? I only can see incompetence when it comes to Wizards, especially their digital side. The biggest factor against arena is it launched without a mobile client and until it gets one I can't see this game getting pl...

I just don't understand wizards as a company when it comes to their 'throw %$#% until something sticks' leading to flip flopping on decisions endlessly. It's why we are in this predicament in the first place when it comes to paper magic. They had the entire market and rather than try move to also ha...

Ktk, and Dr mark sounding the alarm bells but no one's really listening. Those who will ride the Modern wave blindly til the end won't be moved. These are your Twin-Unban, Hogaak and Looting are fine folks. So, those of you who can see the writing on the wall, what are you waiting for, come on over...

And I'm not talking about crap, I'm talking about things like Mox Opals, Fetches, Goyfs,Snapcasters, Liliana of the Veils, Raging Ravines, Celestial Colonnades, Cryptic Commands, and more. And I just can't find people interested in buying them that doesn't involve me spending absurd amounts of time...

Can you imagine how twin would play out right now with Force of Negation and Veil backups? Twin would be stronger now than it was when it was banned. FoN being able to target their removal when you play your creature and tap their only open land is huge on it's own and this is before we even get in...

Can you imagine how twin would play out right now with Force of Negation and Veil backups? Twin would be stronger now than it was when it was banned. FoN being able to target their removal when you play your creature and tap their only open land is huge on it's own and this is before we even get int...

The problem is pioneer simply isnt fun during to every deck being basically another variant of solitaire. Also unless wizards drastically changes their way of thinking and way they design cards I dont see how you can fix that format. Look at the banlist of pioneer and notice how it's almost identica...

I dont understand how anyone can with a straight face tell me pioneer is a good or even fun format. It's an extremely linear format that will continue to be broken set after set as it has zero answers. The fact that even mana leak is considered too good for standard should tell you enough. People ca...

The meta has also changed considerably since then is the thing. Just because a deck is strong is good in one meta doesn't mean that it is good in another. Compare the meta of today and the one during the Hoggak era. They are considerably different

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-12-22#toastxp_st_place this one urza is first What is your point? You can bring up the rest of the challenge events for the last month and build a spread if you want to get a more accurate picture of the metagame. Yo...

58% winrate urza while hoogak. Hoogak I am not sure if it was 60 or 62%. Nothing to prove, it is done allready several times again and again. If someone can't believe it, it doesnt change if we repeat this another 500 times. It's useless like all the results on paper everywhere. It doesn't count an...