Another data point today from mtgo. Top 16 for wuartly format playoffs, featuring agood spread of decks and zero urza. Before people go off on a tangent, plenty of people signed up with the deck

Against better judgement today I attended a Modern tourney and was already regretting it the moment I left home. First match ofcourse was against Okurza and even though I had a full board of hate it still easily won. I shut down Emry, Oko, Urza and Karn but he won through Mystic Sanctuary and CC. I...

Modern has half of the people it used to at my area. Its alarming. Some people I talk to, say they just hate playing against the top dogs, like urza, tron, etron, amulet, even GDS as TBR is presenting a hyper quick kill and as cfusionpm is saying, the deck pretty much tries to kill you afap game 1....

I strongly disagree. People have played legacy and vintage effectively from beginning of the game over 25 years ago, they are not dead now and will not be dead in 2 years from now. Legacy/vintage Get less focus from WOTC than they did years ago, but that is ok. Modern getting less attention is also...

Fringe formats with almost zero paper tournament support, and soon to be zero official online support are effectively dead. It depends on how you frame it. If you are saying that the format won't be played at local tournaments or it will be played less often, then I think that's wrong. Around the L...

I mean on one hand, I think you are wrong. The only way to save Modern is to ban a wave of cards. I have believed that for some time, and I've yet to be proven wrong. I also think continuing to push threats, while it will be done, is considerably flawed, and will actually kill the game. Maro even p...

Answers suck, threats are too good, planeswalkers are too good, there are too many strong permanents, and stack-based Magic can't keep up. Disagree on this portion. Answers are good enough. The answer cards in Modern can keep up with all but the most egregious creatures and planeswalkers. We have v...

I must say anyone I have spoken to that is hyped and liking pioneer is brewing or playing in their own inbred meta since it's the new hype. The competitve level of the format is awful and makes modern look like the king of interaction and answers by comparison. The hype will fade for this format and...

But, got to ask this, what would be the ideal management of the B&R list for ya Firstly they need to (re)define the rules of Modern and secondly apply does rules actively, timely and consistently. If Modern is a turn 4 format they should actively apply that rule or change it. Take Neoform for e...

I just saw the GP, MKM and SCG results and I do fear for an Oko ban. Bant control looks very strong and bant Urzoko is even stronger. After those a lot of decks play Oko or are starting to splash just for Oko. Too me that is format-warping. Modern Magicfest Columbus only had 657 players. That is co...

gkourou The Saturday and Sunday PTQ's have only one Urza deck each in their Top 8s Also, I'm seeing plenty of Jund going around. As for the Top 64, yeah concerning numbers, but I don't expect anything to happen till February (?), I assume GP Austin will be the deciding factor in their decision. On ...

Online is not the reality. Clicking with decks like urza is hard, so it will stay way behind decks on reality. I don't get it why you all think mtgo is allways a good indicator. It's not true for some decks like Kci (extreme example) in past. Time is going on there, so meta is not like in paper for...

It's a positive thing that multiple people openly express their concerns about Modern, being in a bad shape. Pioneer dredged those issues, indeed. It's the broken format, where more bans will keep hapenning. 2019 is not the only thing to blame in Modern. In fact, I consider this a terrible statemen...

Look again, it was not the only oko deck in top 8 bevore you arguing like this. Thx wotc for this powercreep everywhere Sorry I misquote and meant Urza not Oko as that was the deck you seem to have the biggest amount of hate for. Also there is nothing wrong with the bant Oko deck. If we had to argu...

I allready explained this. Please read it again. Nature of mkm series is allways bg decks and control like it was only 3% hoogak on mkm series short bevore it was banned, in the hoogak timeline. Urza has only 5% and goes into top 8 as the best result deck and now it's on finals. Think about this pl...

Tzoulis, by the way, your 5% urza is now in finals. Time to be surprised. But I knew it doesn't count... People still will selflying its OK. So using your logic the deck cant top 8 any tournaments or its considered over powering and stifling the format then. It may be in the top 8 but so are a bunc...

Amalgam , I mean this is true, up to a point. But, at least is a fair format. People are going to play T3 Courser of Kruphix against you and that's a totally legit and strong play. Indeed, one of the strongest plays on the format. In Modern, at the moment, it's like Turn 3 or 4 Urza and you lose, T...

It's getting kind of sad how badly people are being affected by the honeymoon period of Pioneers pushed release. Has anyone actually looked at the format, it feels like playing standard on speed where there is no answers to and threats your opponent lays down. It's basically the perfect example of a...

People have to remember the grass isn't always greener and issues with Pioneer will become more prevalent with time. One of the biggest issues is the set starts around the time when wizards started pushing threats over answers and I'm sure we will find just as many broken unfair decks in it because ...

Well at the very least if the current trend follows into this weekend it will mean the format has moved more towards fairer decks. As much as people dislike Oko he has introduced a new Archtype in Bant snow Control decks or at least pushed them to the forefront. Also there's a jund deck splashing fo...

Yeah sure, urza is a local problem only. Let's forget 30% last week and 4 top 8 week bevore as example. It's only a casual problem Sure lets go with that. Good thing as discussed earlier it has been solved over the last 2 weeks online. The paper meta will slowly catch up to reflect this. The meta h...

Etron is not new and gds too. Etron is heavy played since karn. Maybe now gds has more meta because urza, but 1 deck is not what can help. If people prepare now for shadow, it will be kicked out soon while urza stays. We will see soon what will happen, another time again and we will loose again tim...

Bye the way, time on mtgo is clocking. You can't durdle with such decks while chesshour is awaylable. Question: if something is 25% in paper, but only 5% in mtgo... It's OK? Or maybe some of us should go out of this mtgo bubble sometimes? Because the deck is very playable on MTGO and was everywhere...

Is 7 days so long to you? Scg had 30% urza 7 days ago. Really man, we can talk now it's less?? How many online leagues you can see in some days which means something? And how you can say it changed in so less time? So let's see each month a lot of urza decks everywhere, but if you see less urza for...

Online? Man, online is a click click click and click click game. Who plays urza online? It's horrible and a sign for nothing. Look at real events here please and there you see more urza now Because urza was everywhere online before and is in a big downtrend in all recent big mtgo tournaments. You w...