I'm thinking of trying it. Also Mire Triton has been in my list, but has not come up yet.plaganegra wrote: ↑2 years agoHas undead butler been overlooked? If stitcher's supplier can have a spot, this seems pretty good. Exile is lame, but very low cost to recur a creature and mill a few cards.
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- 2 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
- 2 years ago
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
I'm on 34 plus 4 broken mana rocks, plus 2 Altar.
- 2 years ago
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
As for the card disadvantage I did find it to be an issue, but I still have draw doublers and Rhystic Study to mitigate it, since I haven't updated the list for a while. And lastly, it reminds me that Zombies that produce multiple bodies are probably worth it. Was the card disadvantage an issue eve...
- 2 years ago
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I am interested in your thoughts on this topic and have read all of the content you have put into the thread recently. What I want to know is how you think the negative card advantage affects the game from moxen like chrome mox or mox diamond (exiling/discarding another card from your hand) since g...
- 2 years ago
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I think using the graveyard as more of a second hand alongside Varina's ability is going to be worthwhile, and has been under utilized thus far. Welcome to the dark side! Haha. I cant wait to hear more about what you learn from giving those cards a try and focusing on this aspect of Varina. I've ha...
- 2 years ago
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I personally don't want to run non-zombies in the deck, but regarding the evasion effects I would like to say that I often find value in running my creatures into blockers.
- 2 years ago
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Nothing of interest to me, besides the commander we already knew.
- 2 years ago
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Yeah, I can't be sure i gave you any critique on the list, so apologies if I didn't! Truth be told the primer is pretty crazy now, so it's a lot easier in terms of time management to talk in broad strokes about wider strategies to use and what card inclusions might work than to go over lists. Not t...
- 2 years ago
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We don't need to play Snapcaster. We can just play more mass reanimation spell. At the moment i am running only 3: Patriarch's Bidding, Zombie Apocalypse and Living Death, I saw 6 mana passing by in the thread wich for 8 mana could be instant speed that i might consider, to bad i can't find the nam...
- 2 years ago
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
In my mind the most unique or flavorful way to win with this commander is to swing with a lot of zombies, fill the yard, and then bring them all back for an epic finale. Mass reanimate will always have a place in zombie tribal no matter how you go about it. From what I can tell there seems to be tw...
- 2 years ago
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@Reya I am with you on lowering the curve and possibly going wider. +1 I think it's really important to drop Varina and immediately farm triggers. Hello, friend! haha. I have been trying to maximize her triggers as my main objective for the deck. Glad to have you here! Cant wait to hear more of you...
- 2 years ago
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@Reya I am with you on lowering the curve and possibly going wider. +1 I think it's really important to drop Varina and immediately farm triggers, so low drops are valuable in my opinion. I'm considering a lot of the amass guys for that reason. They provide a lot of synergy, although not being too ...
- 3 years ago
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
It seems to me it can be decent looping Gravecrawler and in conjunction with Withered Wretch, for an instant army. He also works with a couple Unearth guys I run.
I'm ok with trying him as a top end to my curve, but yeah, it's unfortunate that it creates a single zombie per trigger.
I'm ok with trying him as a top end to my curve, but yeah, it's unfortunate that it creates a single zombie per trigger.
- 3 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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I like the effect, the flavor and the frame, so I'll look into a way to work him into my list. I don't play modern anymore, or much really as I don't have a playgroup anymore, but I really enjoyed this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLlIdzlLod0 It's one of the things I like to do in my list,...
- 3 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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I feel from trying in it in a few decks that Tymna isn't worth it in most decks if she's outside the command zone.
I agree with WizardMN, being one mana cheaper is super relevant.
I agree with WizardMN, being one mana cheaper is super relevant.
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
I'm thinking that the White and Blue free spells could be valuable. With this deck I really want to tap out on turn 3/4 cast Varina and loot 2-3 times, and it really hurts to immediately lose her without generating any value. But my playstyle is definitely different than yours so I could see it not ...
- 4 years ago
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- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
I've been playing a Yuriko deck that I had to retire because it got too good :( I also had Approach of the Second Sun but I felt very guilty when it won a game for me. Also cut back on the mass reanimator approach for more controlling maybe (with the board wipes and removal). Cards that I think mig...
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Mystic Sanctuary looks great, recurring mass reanimation spells is very important in my opinions and this offers something we didn't have without having to waste a slot. I value mana efficiency over value in my removal spells, so I don't like the removal options you pointed out. I can see why you wo...
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
I don't really like rocks that cost mana in this deck as in the early turns I rather cast bodies to have the maximum amount of triggers from Varina. Besides that, many creatures cost only colored mana and wouldn't be discounted. I've been considering Haakon for a while, In addition to Corpse Knight,...
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
I agree 100% with everything yeti said. I also like the 1 drop Zombie Knight, it's one more body to trigger Varina with a small upside. It also favors Haakon, if you are pondering him. Flux is cool, but the fact that it let's the opponents sculpt their hand is a problem. Windfall at least disrupts t...
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
The best part of Balthor is being a creature, so you can recur him from the grave unlike the other mass reanimation. Sadly Balthor exiles himself so he cannot be recurred. That being said, a very good option that is sadly no longer budget thanks to C19. I know. The point is that running both allows...
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
The best part of Balthor is being a creature, so you can recur him from the grave unlike the other mass reanimation.
I added Unburial Rites so I can get the effect with only cards from the grave.
I added Unburial Rites so I can get the effect with only cards from the grave.
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Anyone have good recommendations for graveyard reshuffle effects that have uses besides that when its not needed? I just pulled Echo of Eons which would be great in Varina since we can toss it to the graveyard during a discard and immediately crack it as a Timetwister, but slot feels too narrow for...
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
I like Ashiok. Like Authority of the Consuls I wouldn't personally play it because of the way I like to build my decks (I want cards to be more synergistic with the gameplan), but I can see why you would put it in your deck. Thanks for the list blinx28. I'll check it tomorrow. I can appreciate lower...
- 4 years ago
- Forum: Decklists
- Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
I find the lifegain redundant with other effects already in the deck. To avoid blockers I would rather tutor up Zombie Master, although between tokens, recurable creatures and Grave Pact I don't usually care if I'm blocked. But I can see it fitting a different playstyle/meta than mine. I've foregone...