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by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
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Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

plaganegra wrote:
2 years ago
Has undead butler been overlooked? If stitcher's supplier can have a spot, this seems pretty good. Exile is lame, but very low cost to recur a creature and mill a few cards.
I'm thinking of trying it. Also Mire Triton has been in my list, but has not come up yet.
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I'm on 34 plus 4 broken mana rocks, plus 2 Altar.
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

As for the card disadvantage I did find it to be an issue, but I still have draw doublers and Rhystic Study to mitigate it, since I haven't updated the list for a while. And lastly, it reminds me that Zombies that produce multiple bodies are probably worth it. Was the card disadvantage an issue eve...
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I am interested in your thoughts on this topic and have read all of the content you have put into the thread recently. What I want to know is how you think the negative card advantage affects the game from moxen like chrome mox or mox diamond (exiling/discarding another card from your hand) since g...
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I think using the graveyard as more of a second hand alongside Varina's ability is going to be worthwhile, and has been under utilized thus far. Welcome to the dark side! Haha. I cant wait to hear more about what you learn from giving those cards a try and focusing on this aspect of Varina. I've ha...
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I personally don't want to run non-zombies in the deck, but regarding the evasion effects I would like to say that I often find value in running my creatures into blockers.
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Nothing of interest to me, besides the commander we already knew.
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Yeah, I can't be sure i gave you any critique on the list, so apologies if I didn't! Truth be told the primer is pretty crazy now, so it's a lot easier in terms of time management to talk in broad strokes about wider strategies to use and what card inclusions might work than to go over lists. Not t...
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

We don't need to play Snapcaster. We can just play more mass reanimation spell. At the moment i am running only 3: Patriarch's Bidding, Zombie Apocalypse and Living Death, I saw 6 mana passing by in the thread wich for 8 mana could be instant speed that i might consider, to bad i can't find the nam...
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

In my mind the most unique or flavorful way to win with this commander is to swing with a lot of zombies, fill the yard, and then bring them all back for an epic finale. Mass reanimate will always have a place in zombie tribal no matter how you go about it. From what I can tell there seems to be tw...
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

@Reya I am with you on lowering the curve and possibly going wider. +1 I think it's really important to drop Varina and immediately farm triggers. Hello, friend! haha. I have been trying to maximize her triggers as my main objective for the deck. Glad to have you here! Cant wait to hear more of you...
by Kvothe
2 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

@Reya I am with you on lowering the curve and possibly going wider. +1 I think it's really important to drop Varina and immediately farm triggers, so low drops are valuable in my opinion. I'm considering a lot of the amass guys for that reason. They provide a lot of synergy, although not being too ...
by Kvothe
3 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

It seems to me it can be decent looping Gravecrawler and in conjunction with Withered Wretch, for an instant army. He also works with a couple Unearth guys I run.

I'm ok with trying him as a top end to my curve, but yeah, it's unfortunate that it creates a single zombie per trigger.
by Kvothe
3 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I like the effect, the flavor and the frame, so I'll look into a way to work him into my list. I don't play modern anymore, or much really as I don't have a playgroup anymore, but I really enjoyed this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLlIdzlLod0 It's one of the things I like to do in my list,...
by Kvothe
3 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I feel from trying in it in a few decks that Tymna isn't worth it in most decks if she's outside the command zone.

I agree with WizardMN, being one mana cheaper is super relevant.
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I'm thinking that the White and Blue free spells could be valuable. With this deck I really want to tap out on turn 3/4 cast Varina and loot 2-3 times, and it really hurts to immediately lose her without generating any value. But my playstyle is definitely different than yours so I could see it not ...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I've been playing a Yuriko deck that I had to retire because it got too good :( I also had Approach of the Second Sun but I felt very guilty when it won a game for me. Also cut back on the mass reanimator approach for more controlling maybe (with the board wipes and removal). Cards that I think mig...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Mystic Sanctuary looks great, recurring mass reanimation spells is very important in my opinions and this offers something we didn't have without having to waste a slot. I value mana efficiency over value in my removal spells, so I don't like the removal options you pointed out. I can see why you wo...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I don't really like rocks that cost mana in this deck as in the early turns I rather cast bodies to have the maximum amount of triggers from Varina. Besides that, many creatures cost only colored mana and wouldn't be discounted. I've been considering Haakon for a while, In addition to Corpse Knight,...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I agree 100% with everything yeti said. I also like the 1 drop Zombie Knight, it's one more body to trigger Varina with a small upside. It also favors Haakon, if you are pondering him. Flux is cool, but the fact that it let's the opponents sculpt their hand is a problem. Windfall at least disrupts t...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

The best part of Balthor is being a creature, so you can recur him from the grave unlike the other mass reanimation. Sadly Balthor exiles himself so he cannot be recurred. That being said, a very good option that is sadly no longer budget thanks to C19. I know. The point is that running both allows...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

The best part of Balthor is being a creature, so you can recur him from the grave unlike the other mass reanimation.
I added Unburial Rites so I can get the effect with only cards from the grave.
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

Anyone have good recommendations for graveyard reshuffle effects that have uses besides that when its not needed? I just pulled Echo of Eons which would be great in Varina since we can toss it to the graveyard during a discard and immediately crack it as a Timetwister, but slot feels too narrow for...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I like Ashiok. Like Authority of the Consuls I wouldn't personally play it because of the way I like to build my decks (I want cards to be more synergistic with the gameplan), but I can see why you would put it in your deck. Thanks for the list blinx28. I'll check it tomorrow. I can appreciate lower...
by Kvothe
4 years ago
Forum: Decklists
Topic: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange
Replies: 3531
Views: 250596

Re: Varina, Lich Queen - Esper Zombie Midrange

I find the lifegain redundant with other effects already in the deck. To avoid blockers I would rather tutor up Zombie Master, although between tokens, recurable creatures and Grave Pact I don't usually care if I'm blocked. But I can see it fitting a different playstyle/meta than mine. I've foregone...

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