I think Depths still beats out Oko decks in speed, based on personal experience. Oko decks tend to have more sustainability, but Depths doesn't care about that as long as it wins quickly enough. I don't play Depths but that has also been my experience against Oko. If you can race them then you'll b...

Legacy is bar far and away better in terms of ban talk. Fewer bans because the crowd as a whole does not like them and the control tools are there... I enjoy Legacy, but we need to be clear about some of Legacy's health issues. The format is profoundly unhealthy and warped towards certain strategie...

I'm not worried about Urza. Your friends may have a good list but going into a Modern tournament Urza is not my biggest consideration. That alone is why we don't need another ban. I want Urza to exist as a competitive deck. It is a strong card. It doesn't have to be bannable to be playable. This is...

I've not played against Urza much since Emry joined the team. However, people were calling for an Urza ban before Emry was printed so I'm not sure that this whole process is logical. Before Emry joined the team I tested against Urza more frequently than any other deck. It is beatable if you know wh...

Edit: I'll add that my personal stance is that Emry or Urza should have been banned outright. Opal was NOT the problem with this deck. And the only reason I bought into it was because of the price drops before people realize this deck is still one of the best things you can be doing in Modern. This...

It has not even been a week and already there are calls for new bans! This is silly. There is no way to know yet with any confidence if last week's bans did anything to Urza decks. This conversation went from talking about how Veil leads to one dimensional games of Magic to literally exactly where ...

It has not even been a week and already there are calls for new bans! This is silly. There is no way to know yet with any confidence if last week's bans did anything to Urza decks. This conversation went from talking about how Veil leads to one dimensional games of Magic to literally exactly where w...

@ Azadan and @ AvalonAurora : Neither I nor anyone criticizing Veil is saying white and red categorically have zero answers across Gatherer for these different threats. I used the word "viable" in my post for a reason. White and red have no Modern-playable alternatives to blue/black catch...

Agree that is what they want, players must push back because that is fine for Pioneer and Standard but not Legacy or Modern. In theory, this is where a set like Modern Horizons would be perfect. They could print stack based responses for permanents like planeswalkers which would be over powered for...

Creatures 4 Goblin Lackey 1 Skirk Prospector 3 Goblin Cratermaker 2 Goblin Piledriver 2 Mogg War Marshal 2 Munitions Expert 2 Gempalm Incinerator 1 Goblin Chainwhirler 2 Goblin Chieftain 4 Goblin Matron 1 Goblin Warchief 1 Pashalik Mons 4 Goblin Ringleader 1 Goblin Trashmaster 2 Sling-Gang Lieutena...

Legacy is the format for you if you can find players or play mtgo. Stack is where it is at in Legacy, the games are awesome. I once had two activations of maze of ith, 2 flusterstorms, two swords, two forces, one crop rotation, one kor haven, a brainstorm, a berserk, a wasteland, a k grip grip, two...

Would you mind posting your Bg Yawgmoth list up in the developing deck section under my primer? It's this. Since I looked at it during MH1 Spoilers, its been further buffed obviously with Veil and OuaT. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-golgari-yawgmoth#paper Thanks. I'm familiar with th...

With this week's b&r looks like Yawgmoth may finally get his day in the sun (or whatever the Phyrexian equivalent of a sun is). It looks like the deck lists which are going around are Black/Green to take advantage of the tutors, 1 mana persist wolf, and mana dorks that green offers. These varian...

Interesting to see people building with Yawgmoth. I built a monoblack devotion deck around him and Geralfs Messenger almost immediately after he cane out. My primer and deck list is up in the "Developing" decks section under Bx Devotion. I love playing with Yawgmoth and I've always had the...

Oko was banned in Modern today, is Legacy going to be next?

I'm going out on a limb and guessing that both Oko and Astrolabe are going to eat a ban this year. Oko: I generally don't like bans as a solution but in the case of Oko it seems like a ban is warranted. The card is more than "a little broken," it's abilities/starting loyalty are simply to...

[mention]ktkenshinx[/mention] First, let me say that I like what you have here and I generally agree with your sentiment throughout. Particularly your central thesis which is the need for a mission statement from WotC regarding Modern moving forward. Now, a few notes: 1. On punctuation/font, I would...

Tweeting at WotC is definitely more effective than whining about things here. But we need to have a clear message/request. The problem is that even the dozen or so regular posters on this thread cannot reach a consensus about what they want changed in Modern. A handful of people tweeting about rando...

The existence of alternative products are not the problem when a mediocre product fails. True. However, that "mediocrity" is in part due to a lack of clear signaling from the people producing that product. Personally, I took Modern Horizons to be a signal that Modern was here to stay for ...

The W&6 ban also made Goblins playable again. Wrenn's 1 damage was back breaking against Lackey and the land recursion ability basically made Wastelands useless. Land disruption is pretty crucial for Goblins to turn the corner. Unfortunately, the rise of Arcum's Astrolabe has led to the prolifer...

Of all the people that generally contribute to conversation here, how often do you all play? Especially in paper? I play paper at the LGS one or two times a week. Usually Modern on Friday's and Legacy on Wednesday. We usually get the same 8 for Legacy each week. Modern is more varied, between 6-16 ...

Lastly, I'm refining the interactivity score and will probably roll that out here before releasing it in an article. I think this is a critical metric that will actually allow us to quantify some of the feelings we have about various formats... ...The single most important thing Wizards can do to k...

[mention]Aazadan[/mention] I generally agree with your rationale. My idea is that asking for something material which already exists is better than saying "we need better responses" or "card X is overpowered." (I'm not accusing you of doing this, just giving my logic.) REB is a c...

Unless of course, you're playing Painter's Servant in which case you would have REB and the new 1 mana mana leak. I'm currently more worried about Okos and Urzas. If Painter's Servant became a Modern deck which abuses elemental blasts it would be an obvious target for a ban, but I think it's sort o...

Lots of hate like this can be printed, but it's really hard to hit the line where the card is playable, but not too good. Red/Blue Elemental Blast is too good, Pyroblast is too (and out of color pie). I would not consider a 1-for-1 too good. As REB flavor text says, when a color hates another, it s...