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with leyline of the void being in Core 2020, when would be the best time to get my 4th? if it matters I'm specifically looking to get a 4th one from whatever core set it was in before this one

hoping the price of Prismatic Vista to someday go down. 25-27 still too expensive,

and not many decks are using it,..

Hot take: Modern Horizon caused so many more problems than it solved. It was a set destined to drive prices up. Anything that sees any amount of play has (and will continue) to skyrocket in price, and will not see reprints any time soon.

It's neat to have these new cards, but just as I predicted, they will continue to be needlessly expensive.

Agreed. I think a straight to modern set was a mistake. While it allows WotC to print cards with a more appropriate power level for modern, or with mechanics they don't want to print into standard, it makes modern even more expensive to get into. MH prices will only shoot up when the supply starts to run low (which I would expect to happen far sooner than most, due to M20 so soon after). MH cards also have no good reprint window other than future reprint sets, so I expect the cards that are putting up results now (force of negation, wrenn and six, urza) to become some of the most expensive cards in the format.

so I guess it's better to grab what we need from Modern Horizons now, while the prices are still not too high?

well, got most of what I need.. except the prismatic vistas as those are outside the budget.

I won't be able to afford two Force of Negation for my Faeries deck.
Price has been steadily climbing and will probably only continue to. Doesn't help that the boosters are that expensive either.

a friend of mine also not able to afford 2 FoN for his merfolk deck.

Is MH1 a limited print, only a small quantity?

It is "print to demand". The problem, of course, is how much demand is there. It is twice as much as a normal set (even including Conspiracy or Battlebond), M20 was just released and has some decent cards for a core set, and most limited events will likely be M20 due to the cost of MH1.

So, unless there is some sort of major event that forces the use of MH1, I am not sure if the demand for boxes is there. Also, I know my LGS is also having issues getting more MH1 (they were slow to get more War of the Spark too) so that could be hurting things.

Wrenn and Six eclipsed the $70 mark. Pretty silly, even as good as the card is.

FoodChainGoblins wrote: ↑

4 years ago

Wrenn and Six eclipsed the $70 mark. Pretty silly, even as good as the card is.

Makes me feel really sad for Tibalt. Especially with the latest Innistrad having been a great time to release another 2 mana Tibalt that works with madness and doesn't suck.

I also don't feel like opening Boosters since I really only need one or two cards at best. Which in turn only increses demand without adding to the supply. Turns out I'm part of the problem.

The canopy lands are going to be so expensive, too. I bought my four Sunbaked Canyons for Burn when they were $12 and they've already gone up to $16.

If MH1 had been a normal priced set, people would have been more inclined to draft a lot of it, I'm sure. Many people I spoke with said they only drafted it once because of the higher price. This'll definitely be a mar on an otherwise fine set. At least the Art Series cards were dirt cheap to pick up lol?

I grabbed the WB, UR, and UG canopy lands, and agreed all should go up over time.

Makes me wonder when they complete the cycle.

idSurge wrote: ↑

4 years ago

I grabbed the WB, UR, and UG canopy lands, and agreed all should go up over time.

Makes me wonder when they complete the cycle.

I almost bought into the WB one because I saw a Mardu Death Shadow list I liked, probably gonna that and the UR one sooner rather than later

MH1 is still very interesting. Box EV is quite a bit above the cost of a box, and all cards that are seeing any sort of play are going up (sometimes quite a bit, like Wrenn and Six and Hexdrinker). I'm still trying to decide if it's worth getting another box, and if so if it's better to crack it or sit on it.

Hexdrinker has turned modern Mono-G Stompy from being budget to not so budget anymore.
Creature was tested and proven to be good there. From last I saw at a post in mtgs stompy thread, it has increased almost 10$ from previous price.

Veil of Summer may be worth looking at for those who spec on things in bulk. I just grabbed some Japanese ones to try out instead of Force of Negation, that I wont pay for, as my 'interaction'.

if midrange decks using black become dominant in modern. Veil might rise in price as it's quite good against those kind of decks. It "counters" thoughtseize, kolaghans. command, and several black removal spells.

I'm probably gonna bite the bullet and get my set of seasoned pyromancer soon, I can't see them dropping much and I just want them.

what about force of negation

motleyslayer wrote: ↑

4 years ago

I'm probably gonna bite the bullet and get my set of seasoned pyromancer soon, I can't see them dropping much and I just want them.

what about force of negation

Both are going to go nowhere but up. Released in an expensive, "limited, but not limited" set, that hasn't been opened nearly as much as it could, and which contain cards that likely will not see reprint for 1-2+ years, anything and everything that sees any play will continue to climb to astronomical price levels.

Let's just say I'm glad I didn't trade away my Seasoned Pyromancers back when they were "only" $16, and I'm glad I got my Forces when they were "only" $22.

Not getting Force was a massive mistake on my part. :/

idSurge wrote: ↑

4 years ago

Not getting Force was a massive mistake on my part. :/

I think it's okay. They haven't changed in price much. I bought 1 for $26 and 3 from another seller for $30 just recently. It kind of sucks and I know for sure they'll be lower after the Magic Fest Las Vegas MH Sealed, but I can't wait to try Daniel Fournier's UW Control. It really intrigues me.

Then again, it's hard for me to justify playing anything other than Hogaak since it's busted and (LMFAO) Wizards banned the right card, lol.

I hope swarmyard get reprinted somewhere to decrease the price.
It feels like the kind of card whose price is high only because of lack of reprints.

FoodChainGoblins wrote: ↑

4 years ago

Then again, it's hard for me to justify playing anything other than Hogaak since it's busted and (LMFAO) Wizards banned the right card, lol.

Enjoy it while you can !

cfusionpm wrote: ↑

4 years ago

motleyslayer wrote: ↑

4 years ago

I'm probably gonna bite the bullet and get my set of seasoned pyromancer soon, I can't see them dropping much and I just want them.

what about force of negation

Both are going to go nowhere but up. Released in an expensive, "limited, but not limited" set, that hasn't been opened nearly as much as it could, and which contain cards that likely will not see reprint for 1-2+ years, anything and everything that sees any play will continue to climb to astronomical price levels.

Let's just say I'm glad I didn't trade away my Seasoned Pyromancers back when they were "only" $16, and I'm glad I got my Forces when they were "only" $22.

I expect prices to remain pretty stable. Maybe take a slight dip as a lot of product will be opened with various limited events in the near future. Prices will then probably start to climb slowly as supply starts to dwindle. I don't think we'll see another big wave of boxes hit the market, but Wizards may surprise us with a big wave for Christmas or something.

Went yesterday to draft some M20 and my LGS had a 3 pack MH for 20 so purchased a couple to draft with some friends each with their own pack of 3 and in mine was Urza, foil and regular W6. Simply amazing.

What do you guys think of foil versions? Will they hold?