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Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:59 am**

Djinn Illuminatus Hive Mind Lightning Bolt

Bob has Djinn Illuminatus and Hive Mind in play. He casts Lightning Bolt, paying replicate cost 3 times (replicate provided to the spell by the Djinn). Hive mind forces all players to make copies of the original lightning bolt (but not the copies as those were not "cast"). For the copies created by Hive Mind, are they copied with replicate having been paid, thus creating their own copies; or are they copied only as the original text on Lightning Bolt, allowing Bob to effectively do several Lightning Bolts while his opponents only get one Lightning Bolt each?

Posted: **Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:29 am**

Replicate rules:

Comprehensive Rules wrote: 702.56a Replicate is a keyword that represents two abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the spell with replicate is on the stack. The second is a triggered ability that functions while the spell with replicate is on the stack. "Replicate [cost]" means "As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may pay [cost] any number of times" and "When you cast this spell, if a replicate cost was paid for it, copy it for each time its replicate cost was paid. If the spell has any targets, you may choose new targets for any of the copies." Paying a spell's replicate cost follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.

In this case, the replicate copy effect is a triggered ability that happens when the spell is cast. The copies (both from Hive Mind and replicate) are not cast (they're just put directly onto the stack), and thus will not copy themselves further.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:06 am**

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you, Mookie.

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