[C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:33 pm
Well then, that's an interesting area to explore.
Well then, that's an interesting area to explore.
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Well then, that's an interesting area to explore.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:35 pm
My 98 lands deck just cried out in horror.
I mean, as long as it's past turn 7 or so, though, 2 lands a turn ain't %$#% for that deck.
I mean, as long as it's past turn 7 or so, though, 2 lands a turn ain't %$#% for that deck.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:41 pm
This is the kind of card you cheat out on turn 2 because you really didn't want to play another commander game. It will go into my land destruction deck though.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:53 pm
Can I just say how glad I am that this can't be cheated into play with Kaalia?
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:57 pm
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:19 pm
YES!! A thousand times yes! Commander needs more of these kinds of ramp-punishing effects. Awesome design: triggers on attacking to prevent it from being abused with blinking effects, has haste to immediately punish mana-greedy players, and a relatively low toughness to keep it from surviving too long in case it starts getting out of control. As pointed out early, it's good that its creature type prevents it from being abused by tribal cards that could cheat it into play earlier than desired.
Keep the ramp-haters coming!
Keep the ramp-haters coming!
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:25 pm
Go artifact ramping and you could still get this out early enough to keep the game slow.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:31 pm
I'm aware, but my local Kaalia player is very fond of multiple attack steps.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:53 pm
All this plus I like that it punishes the player with the most land meaning in general this will help even things out and not feel oppressive and feel bads and you gotta be care with now you are ramping.Maluko wrote: ↑4 years agoYES!! A thousand times yes! Commander needs more of these kinds of ramp-punishing effects. Awesome design: triggers on attacking to prevent it from being abused with blinking effects, has haste to immediately punish mana-greedy players, and a relatively low toughness to keep it from surviving too long in case it starts getting out of control. As pointed out early, it's good that its creature type prevents it from being abused by tribal cards that could cheat it into play earlier than desired.
Keep the ramp-haters coming!
I'm not a huge "bring back land destruction" but I think cards that play into this space might work better.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:52 pm
Land sac is particularly evil because you know you're using it to kill everyone's lands. Normal LD or even MLD at least is justifiable on "it destroys things like Gaea's Cradle". This doesn't.
I like.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:18 pm
As a player with several green ramp-based decks, my first response to Tectonic Hellion is 'eeeeurrrrgh'.
Still, very nice to see them exploring this space. There currently aren't many good answers to ramp strategies without opening up the MLD can of worms. Countering / stealing the payoffs can help, but that isn't always a consistent answer.
Notably, at 7 mana, it usually won't come down until fairly late... unless you're ramping into it, which seems counterproductive. I guess it works for artifact-based ramp though. Seems like a very nasty stax piece if you can cheat it out early.
Still, very nice to see them exploring this space. There currently aren't many good answers to ramp strategies without opening up the MLD can of worms. Countering / stealing the payoffs can help, but that isn't always a consistent answer.
Notably, at 7 mana, it usually won't come down until fairly late... unless you're ramping into it, which seems counterproductive. I guess it works for artifact-based ramp though. Seems like a very nasty stax piece if you can cheat it out early.
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:37 pm
Re: [C19] Tectonic Hellion (CubeApril)
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:42 pm
Ramping is counterproductive unless you ramp with mana rocks or dorks. In that case you can force your opponents to never have more than 2-3 lands for game while you can always have even 10 available at that time.Mookie wrote: ↑4 years agoAs a player with several green ramp-based decks, my first response to Tectonic Hellion is 'eeeeurrrrgh'.
Still, very nice to see them exploring this space. There currently aren't many good answers to ramp strategies without opening up the MLD can of worms. Countering / stealing the payoffs can help, but that isn't always a consistent answer.
Notably, at 7 mana, it usually won't come down until fairly late... unless you're ramping into it, which seems counterproductive. I guess it works for artifact-based ramp though. Seems like a very nasty stax piece if you can cheat it out early.