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My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:14 pm
by xeroxedfool
Hey MTG:Nexus, this thread contains my version of
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician. My build is influenced heavily by
darrenhabib's deck which can be found
here. There are many wonderful threads for Yawgmoth on the forum including
benjameenbear's which is a very nice
primer. I have also visited
toctheyounger's thread which is very
nice as well. I am posting my deck mostly because I just love Yawgmoth and I want to keep records of what I change. There are some excellent threads for readers if they need information. I will of course welcome any suggestions or questions here as well.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:47 pm
by xeroxedfool
Out:
Dreadhorde Invasion
In:
Contamination
It was actually still pretty difficult for me to make a cut here. There were quite a few good suggestions for cuts. I remember drawing Dreadhorde Invasion later in a game and thinking it was pretty low impact. If it had been any creature I could have cycled it.
Contamination is powerful in almost all stages of the game. It is also a unique form of disruption the deck could use.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:01 am
by toctheyounger
I never tried
Dreadhorde Invasion in Yawgmoth, but I did run it in Varina. It was very slow to say the least, so it's an easy cut here; if this is anything like my build it's 0-100 in nobody's business.
How has
Tenacious Dead worked out for you? I wanted to try it out, but as much as I tried I just couldn't justify adding it as the weakest self-reanimator - I struggled to squeeze everything I wanted to in anyway.
K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth - how good is it? Seems nuts, and I'd like to pick up a copy anyway, but I want a place to put it before I commit to that. It's a moot point for the moment anyway, my LGS is out of the precons what with the very short print run.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:13 pm
by xeroxedfool
toctheyounger wrote: ↑4 years ago
I never tried
Dreadhorde Invasion in Yawgmoth, but I did run it in Varina. It was very slow to say the least, so it's an easy cut here; if this is anything like my build it's 0-100 in nobody's business.
How has
Tenacious Dead worked out for you? I wanted to try it out, but as much as I tried I just couldn't justify adding it as the weakest self-reanimator - I struggled to squeeze everything I wanted to in anyway.
K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth - how good is it? Seems nuts, and I'd like to pick up a copy anyway, but I want a place to put it before I commit to that. It's a moot point for the moment anyway, my LGS is out of the precons what with the very short print run.
I haven't drawn K'rrik since I added him. I honestly don't know how powerful he will be, but he seems good. I like that he provides a unique effect.
Tenacious Dead is not a card I like honestly. I've drawn it and never really wanted to spend the mana on it besides just casting and cycling. With so many tutors I can always grab the
Bloodghast or
Nether Traitor if I want. They are some of my favorite
Entomb targets when I'm not trying to reanimate.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:13 pm
by xeroxedfool
Out:
Tenacious Dead,
Liliana, Death's Majesty
In:
Bloodsoaked Champion,
Yawgmoth's Will.
In the past few days thinking about this list I've came up with these changes. Tenacious Dead isn't that good from my experience, atleast it doesnt fit well with my play style. Champion can be reactivated later if you want to. This allows for a little more control over when you want to recur it.
Yawgmoths Will is an interesting card. Considered one of the most powerful cards ever made, I wonder if it really lives up to that in this format. I think that it provides a unique and powerful effect. But requires a lot of mana to be useful. When you compare Will directly to Liliana, which I admit is a little unfair, Lily is cheaper to use if you just want to recur one creature. In the later stages of the game Will is insanely stronger than Liliana. It can recur all sorts of things beyond creatures.
But if it is the late game, Will resolves, I have my graveyard and mana to cast 2-3 spells from it, am I not in a good position anyway? Could YawgWin be YawgWinMore? Those are my random thoughts on the card. I'm going to test it in my build and see how that goes.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:13 pm
by lyonhaert
xeroxedfool wrote: ↑4 years ago
But if it is the late game, Will resolves, I have my graveyard and mana to cast 2-3 spells from it, am I not in a good position anyway? Could YawgWin be YawgWinMore? Those are my random thoughts on the card. I'm going to test it in my build and see how that goes.
If you mean being in a good position after those 2-3 spells resolved, then
Yawgmoth's Will helped you get there. Otherwise whether you're in a good position depends on more than just mana and your graveyard.
Will is an all-purpose recursion tool because it uses the word "play" instead of "cast" (
e.g., steal somebody's Azusa, resolve Will, and then play 3 lands from your graveyard). Black is really good at getting back creatures, but has few options for anything else, so I see Will as black's
Eternal Witness, only better because it scales with big mana even though it has that exile downside. Resolving Will to re-cast
Entomb for something else to cast from your graveyard is fun, too.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:43 pm
by xeroxedfool
[mention]lyonhaert[/mention] I like the point you make about Will being black's Eternal Witness.
I do want to mention that Entomb is not a combo with Will the turn you have Will's effect. Anything that would enter the graveyard that turn is exiled instead. You could Entomb for something before you cast Will but not during.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:23 pm
by lyonhaert
xeroxedfool wrote: ↑4 years ago
I do want to mention that Entomb is not a combo with Will the turn you have Will's effect. Anything that would enter the graveyard that turn is exiled instead. You could Entomb for something before you cast Will but not during.
Yep, you're right - it's a replacement effect and there's no window for that. I think I had it mixed up with
Necropotence's exile
trigger.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:05 am
by xeroxedfool
Very small update here.
Removed:
Star Compass
Added:
Arcane Signet
Arcane Signet makes the format smaller by an appreciable amount. Why would you ever play something like Star Compass or
Coldsteel Heart now?
Charcoal Diamond seems like a cruel joke. Anyway, this is a simple upgrade.
Re: My Version of Yawgmoth
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:31 pm
by xeroxedfool