[ELD] New Planeswalker OKO
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:34 pm
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Obviously the most important question: Would you still date Yawgmoth after he became a nonphysical god of black mana?YawgmothPrime wrote: ↑4 years agoFirst, he's hot, like hotter than Yawgmoth hot. I would never cheat on Yawgmoth, but...
Lorwyn-Shadowmoore Block : LRW (0/5) MOR (0/0) SHM (0/0) EVE (0/0) Alara Block : ALA (2/4) CON (0/1) ARB (0/0) Zendikar Block : ZEN (1/3) WWK (0/1) ROE (0/2) Scars of Mirrodin Block : SOM (1/3) MBS (0/1) NPH (0/1) Innistrad Block : INN (0/2) DKA (1/1) AVR (1/2) Return to Ravnica Block : RTR (1/2) GTC (1/2) DGM (1/1) Theros Block : THS (1/3) BNG (0/1) JOU (0/1) Tarkir Block : KTK (1/2) FRF (1/1) DTK (2/2) Battle for Zendikar Block : BFZ (1/3) OGW (1/2) Shadows Over Innistrad Block : SOI (2/3) EMN (0/2) Kaladesh Block : KLD (3/3) AER (0/2) Amonkhet Block : AKH (0/3) HOU (1/2) Ixalan Block : XLN (1/3) RIX (1/2) Dominaria : DOM (3/3) War On Ravnica Block : GRN (2/2) RNA (1/3) WAR (3/36)Nope, nevermind, it's happened before, and recently too.
They didn't say he was from Eldraine.shukkets wrote: ↑4 years agoOh, neat. He's very much got the whole David Bowie's Goblin King vibe going for him.
Also, it looks like all the planeswalkers in this set are natives to the setting. When was the last time that happened? Never?Lorwyn-Shadowmoore Block : LRW (0/5) MOR (0/0) SHM (0/0) EVE (0/0) Alara Block : ALA (2/4) CON (0/1) ARB (0/0) Zendikar Block : ZEN (1/3) WWK (0/1) ROE (0/2) Scars of Mirrodin Block : SOM (1/3) MBS (0/1) NPH (0/1) Innistrad Block : INN (0/2) DKA (1/1) AVR (1/2) Return to Ravnica Block : RTR (1/2) GTC (1/2) DGM (1/1) Theros Block : THS (1/3) BNG (0/1) JOU (0/1) Tarkir Block : KTK (1/2) FRF (1/1) DTK (2/2) Battle for Zendikar Block : BFZ (1/3) OGW (1/2) Shadows Over Innistrad Block : SOI (2/3) EMN (0/2) Kaladesh Block : KLD (3/3) AER (0/2) Amonkhet Block : AKH (0/3) HOU (1/2) Ixalan Block : XLN (1/3) RIX (1/2) Dominaria : DOM (3/3) War On Ravnica Block : GRN (2/2) RNA (1/3) WAR (3/36)Nope, nevermind, it's happened before, and recently too.
But green-blue-red are Temur colors... Maybe we see different colors in that art.YawgmothPrime wrote: ↑4 years agoThird, I think he's going to be our first Sultai walker. The colors depicted on his art show this and his personality I can see as more of a Sultai bent due to the selfishness in there than Temur.
KLD should be 3/4; Nissa was in KLD and is from Zendikar.shukkets wrote: ↑4 years agoOh, neat. He's very much got the whole David Bowie's Goblin King vibe going for him.
Also, it looks like all the planeswalkers in this set are natives to the setting. When was the last time that happened? Never?Lorwyn-Shadowmoore Block : LRW (0/5) MOR (0/0) SHM (0/0) EVE (0/0) Alara Block : ALA (2/4) CON (0/1) ARB (0/0) Zendikar Block : ZEN (1/3) WWK (0/1) ROE (0/2) Scars of Mirrodin Block : SOM (1/3) MBS (0/1) NPH (0/1) Innistrad Block : INN (0/2) DKA (1/1) AVR (1/2) Return to Ravnica Block : RTR (1/2) GTC (1/2) DGM (1/1) Theros Block : THS (1/3) BNG (0/1) JOU (0/1) Tarkir Block : KTK (1/2) FRF (1/1) DTK (2/2) Battle for Zendikar Block : BFZ (1/3) OGW (1/2) Shadows Over Innistrad Block : SOI (2/3) EMN (0/2) Kaladesh Block : KLD (3/3) AER (0/2) Amonkhet Block : AKH (0/3) HOU (1/2) Ixalan Block : XLN (1/3) RIX (1/2) Dominaria : DOM (3/3) War On Ravnica Block : GRN (2/2) RNA (1/3) WAR (3/36)Nope, nevermind, it's happened before, and recently too.
I see green-blue-purple, and purple magic is usually associated with black.SecretInfiltrator wrote: ↑4 years agoBut green-blue-red are Temur colors... Maybe we see different colors in that art.
I do see it as more of a purple than red, as a pinkish purple. The other two colors come across clearly so it'd be weird if they chose the red to not be a more solid red. His personality also sounds to be black aligned as he's conceited, vain, and has no care towards the emotions and feelings of others, just his own amusement. I can see where that can also be seen as red, but my speculation would be Sultai over Temur. I also think adding G to the already established UB of Faeries makes since and wouldn't throw off others who are coming in with Lorwyn memories than adding GR to U.SecretInfiltrator wrote: ↑4 years agoI feel the oppressive society probably is not Eldraine. It could be, but I got the impression Oko is currently running from his past - as red planeswalkers are wont to do. ; )But green-blue-red are Temur colors... Maybe we see different colors in that art.YawgmothPrime wrote: ↑4 years agoThird, I think he's going to be our first Sultai walker. The colors depicted on his art show this and his personality I can see as more of a Sultai bent due to the selfishness in there than Temur.
I think his irreverence to authority is a strong red streak as well. He doesn't seem intentionally cruel, just self-important like Niv-Mizzet. Having a black color alignment in a Faerie planeswlker certainly would be nice for the Lorwyn-Fae connection, but the character as presented screams red unsteadiness and impulsiveness from the strong emotional bend on the trust issues to the running from consequences.
Fae in Gaelic, Germanic, and Norse myth are human sized (roughly). In Gaelic myth in particular, the Seelie and Unseelie courts liked to steal away children and replace them with their own.YawgmothPrime wrote: ↑4 years agoSecond, it's a surprise that he's of regular height and fairly humanoid. When they said fae walker, I half expected a tiny figure, but he could always shapeshift from one size to the next.
He has nature magic. Fitting it since Oko might make the thorn thicket Rowan is cutting down in the key art.Watchwolf wrote: ↑4 years agoI think I'm in the Sultai camp on this guy. Temur would make sense too though.
I am a bit bothered by the artwork though. Colors aside, why are there magic-y, thorny vines? He's a shapeshifter, isn't he? What about shapeshifting magic involves glowing ghostly vines coming out of your fingers?
I know it comes down to the fact that these days, every planeswalker has to have some visual flare that shows them casting spells or something in their art, but I am getting a bit bored of the "glowy stuff coming out of their hands" trope.
Lorwyn faeries were tricksters and played tricks like that (switching a child in a crib with a changeling, for example) and they were represented in blue and black colors, I think it suits Sultai colors a little more.
Women in magic show skin:Atraxian wrote: ↑4 years agoFor colors, if they have to somewhat balance the colors of the planeswalkers I would put him in Sultai. We already have mono-blue and a mono-red walker, so giving him both red AND blue putting him in Temur colors could be a little too much.
Not to mention that we will have a little too many red walkers even after rotation, but... We will have to wait and see, I guess.
On another note...
...Women in magic showing some skin is a big no-no, but men can almost show their pubic hair no-problem...
Riiiiight...
What's wrong with people being attracted to art? I think him being good looking is part of his character. Ted Bundy used his good looks to seduce women and trap them. Liliana used her looks to manipulate Jace. The Rakdos cult definitely has a S&M thing going on, and that's part of their appeal, and part of the reason why the Azorius hate them so much. You can't tell a red character to dress conservatively or a black character to not use their looks to get what they want. Green characters may be naked just because of nature. If Wotc made a card with a member of the Azorius half-naked I'd complain, but otherwise it's just part of the story.Whiffypenguin wrote: ↑4 years agoI was a little shocked at the response he got from twitter. It was very sexual. Maybe i'm wrong, but isn't this like the exact same thing as sexulaized women? What makes distilling this interesting character down to how many abs he has ok?