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UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:34 pm
by The Fluff
Sharing the news here.

https://articles.starcitygames.com/news ... h-bradley/

although also on the news, looks like they will continue use some stuff he already produced.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:43 pm
by BeneTleilax
never trust corporations

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:45 pm
by Outcryqq
BeneTleilax wrote:
3 years ago
never trust corporations
Never trust a sexual predator.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:47 pm
by robertleva
Who the hell needs sleeves now? They should be smart and partner with WOTC to make custom card backs for our digital decks in MTGO.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:08 pm
by BeneTleilax
i never said i trusted bradly. i just dont trust ultrapro or hasbro wizards either.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:32 pm
by Krishnath
BeneTleilax wrote:
3 years ago
i never said i trusted bradly. i just dont trust ultrapro or hasbro wizards either.
As Corporations go, Hasbro is pretty cool. Unlike many other toy companies, they actually listen to and evaluate the input of the fans of their various toylines. Changing to that model actually saved their asses in the 90's as it increased sales. They are by no means perfect, but they are miles better than most other toy companies. The only major toy company I know off that has better ethics is LEGO.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:09 pm
by BeneTleilax
corporations are not people they have no ethics.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:37 pm
by Legend
As profound as confession and repentance can be, they don't necessarily preclude consequences, even when they're accepted with grace and forgiveness.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:26 am
by DJK3654
Entirely sensible, good decision on UltraPro's part. Bradley can't just make an apology and all is forgiven. He has to work for it. In the meantime (that is, if he ever redeems himself), it is good ethics for businesses, and other groups, not to platform and support him. Bradley isn't entitled to anything from WotC or UltraPro.
Open and shut case here.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:15 pm
by motleyslayer
DJK3654 wrote:
3 years ago
Entirely sensible, good decision on UltraPro's part. Bradley can't just make an apology and all is forgiven. He has to work for it. In the meantime (that is, if he ever redeems himself), it is good ethics for businesses, and other groups, not to platform and support him. Bradley isn't entitled to anything from WotC or UltraPro.
Open and shut case here.
Hopefully losing ties with two companies he previously worked for is enough of a motivation for him to change his ways. He'll have to work quite hard to show that he's changed for even to be considered to be given forgiveness. Rightfully so, the kind of behaviour he's shown is quite appalling.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:51 pm
by robertleva
motleyslayer wrote:
3 years ago
DJK3654 wrote:
3 years ago
Entirely sensible, good decision on UltraPro's part. Bradley can't just make an apology and all is forgiven. He has to work for it. In the meantime (that is, if he ever redeems himself), it is good ethics for businesses, and other groups, not to platform and support him. Bradley isn't entitled to anything from WotC or UltraPro.
Open and shut case here.
Hopefully losing ties with two companies he previously worked for is enough of a motivation for him to change his ways. He'll have to work quite hard to show that he's changed for even to be considered to be given forgiveness. Rightfully so, the kind of behavior he's shown is quite appalling.
Lol he is done for life. This isn't some Mike Tyson level person that can just get a pass for being a convicted rapist. This is a nobody that makes art for a game that nobody of importance cares about. From here on out he will have to get whatever work is allowed for people that do these kinds of illegal things...

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:03 pm
by Krishnath
BeneTleilax wrote:
3 years ago
corporations are not people they have no ethics.
Corporations are run by people, people usually have ethics, or in the case of the owners of EA and FOX News, lack them completely.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:06 pm
by The Fluff
@motleyslayer

yeah, he did terrible things. Many unfortunate victims.

looked at his twitter, the apology posted there had at least a thousand likes, although most of the comments are negative.


Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:35 pm
by robertleva
Krishnath wrote:
3 years ago
BeneTleilax wrote:
3 years ago
corporations are not people they have no ethics.
Corporations are run by people, people usually have ethics, or in the case of the owners of EA and FOX News, lack them completely.
Everyone who supports your opinion has ethics. Everyone who doesn't, doesnt. Seems legit.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:05 pm
by Krishnath
robertleva wrote:
3 years ago
Krishnath wrote:
3 years ago
BeneTleilax wrote:
3 years ago
corporations are not people they have no ethics.
Corporations are run by people, people usually have ethics, or in the case of the owners of EA and FOX News, lack them completely.
Everyone who supports your opinion has ethics. Everyone who doesn't, doesnt. Seems legit.
Look up what EA has done and continue to do to smaller game studios like Westwood, Bullfrog and Maxis.

As for Fox "News", it is a right wing propaganda channel that has been banned in multiple countries because it is a right wing propaganda channel and doesn't deliver enough actual news to be considered a news channel.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:12 pm
by robertleva
Krishnath wrote:
3 years ago
robertleva wrote:
3 years ago
Krishnath wrote:
3 years ago


Corporations are run by people, people usually have ethics, or in the case of the owners of EA and FOX News, lack them completely.
Everyone who supports your opinion has ethics. Everyone who doesn't, doesnt. Seems legit.
Look up what EA has done and continue to do to smaller game studios like Westwood, Bullfrog and Maxis.

As for Fox "News", it is a right wing propaganda channel that has been banned in multiple countries because it is a right wing propaganda channel and doesn't deliver enough actual news to be considered a news channel.
So Fox is propaganda and CNN is real ETHICAL news? If no, would you mind giving an example of an ethical news organization for a basis of comparison? Seems like the stations that support your views are coincidentally also the ethical ones.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:05 pm
by Krishnath
robertleva wrote:
3 years ago
Krishnath wrote:
3 years ago
robertleva wrote:
3 years ago


Everyone who supports your opinion has ethics. Everyone who doesn't, doesnt. Seems legit.
Look up what EA has done and continue to do to smaller game studios like Westwood, Bullfrog and Maxis.

As for Fox "News", it is a right wing propaganda channel that has been banned in multiple countries because it is a right wing propaganda channel and doesn't deliver enough actual news to be considered a news channel.
So Fox is propaganda and CNN is real ETHICAL news? If no, would you mind giving an example of an ethical news organization for a basis of comparison? Seems like the stations that support your views are coincidentally also the ethical ones.
Reuters is a pretty good one.

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:41 pm
by robertleva
Krishnath wrote:
3 years ago
robertleva wrote:
3 years ago
Krishnath wrote:
3 years ago


Look up what EA has done and continue to do to smaller game studios like Westwood, Bullfrog and Maxis.

As for Fox "News", it is a right wing propaganda channel that has been banned in multiple countries because it is a right wing propaganda channel and doesn't deliver enough actual news to be considered a news channel.
So Fox is propaganda and CNN is real ETHICAL news? If no, would you mind giving an example of an ethical news organization for a basis of comparison? Seems like the stations that support your views are coincidentally also the ethical ones.
Reuters is a pretty good one.
That's just BBC news. How about an American news channel?

Re: UltraPRO has cut ties with Noah Bradley.

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:28 pm
by motleyslayer
Please keep this on the topic of Ultra Pro cutting ties with Noah Bradley and not how valid various news sources are