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Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:35 pm
by Candlemane
Since Commander Decks should be around the corner more or less, which characters / legendary creatures that haven't gotten cards would be interesting to print?

I'd like to see a card for the All Consuming Oni of Chaos, personally.

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. Working my way around the new site.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:07 pm
by tstorm823
My list may have run out. We got a Yawgmoth, we got a Varchild, we got O-Kagachi (not that it's much to write home about). I'm sure by this point most people's wish lists are dwindling.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:14 pm
by darrenhabib
I am still waiting for my Boros legendary Samurai general to helm a tribal deck. At this stage I'm guessing that I'm going to have to wait for a return to Kamigawa to get that.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:10 pm
by toctheyounger
Gix is my personal request.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:16 pm
by SocorroTortoise
There are a few characters I'd like to see revisited under modern design sensibilities, like Volrath and Lim-Dul, but I can't think of any characters I'd really like that have never seen a printing. The last few years of sets have been great for printing cards for old characters.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:21 pm
by toctheyounger
The only other I can think of that I've heard about but never seen on a card is Tevesh Szat. I can't remember a lot about him from the lore, so not overly fussed.

Also, I know we have Marit Lage as a token, but it would be kind of cool to see it as a card itself.

Also also, not complaining about pre-god Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, but it would be freakin' sweet to see full-god Yawgmoth, Lord of the wastes in all his Phyrexian, tyrannical glory.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:26 pm
by SocorroTortoise
toctheyounger wrote:
5 years ago
Also also, not complaining about pre-god Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, but it would be freakin' sweet to see full-god Yawgmoth, Lord of the wastes in all his Phyrexian, tyrannical glory.
I don't really want to see any of the oldwalkers/Yawgmoth at peak power. Those feel like difficult characters to balance cards for correctly. They can't be so overpowered as to break the game, but a mediocre card for a character described as basically a god is disappointing for flavor reasons.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:36 pm
by toctheyounger
SocorroTortoise wrote:
5 years ago
toctheyounger wrote:
5 years ago
Also also, not complaining about pre-god Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, but it would be freakin' sweet to see full-god Yawgmoth, Lord of the wastes in all his Phyrexian, tyrannical glory.
I don't really want to see any of the oldwalkers/Yawgmoth at peak power. Those feel like difficult characters to balance cards for correctly. They can't be so overpowered as to break the game, but a mediocre card for a character described as basically a god is disappointing for flavor reasons.
It's definitely a delicate balance. Especially considering how weird the manifestation of Yawgmoth actually became. I'm sort of torn, because I would love to see an actual, real card that is the Lord of the Wastes, but I'd be a little disappointed if it were just another planeswalker, and I share your concern for actually encompassing how awesome Yawgmoth is at that point in time on a piece of cardboard. I'd prefer it never got done than done badly. There's also the possibility of it being a 'jumping the shark' moment like with the OG Eldrazi titans, where people just inwardly groan at how stupid they are. So yeah, as much as I want it, it's probably best it doesn't happen.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:49 pm
by Candlemane
darrenhabib wrote:
5 years ago
I am still waiting for my Boros legendary Samurai general to helm a tribal deck. At this stage I'm guessing that I'm going to have to wait for a return to Kamigawa to get that.
Yeah, I was thinking about that earlier. Maybe even RGW for one, though that really only accounts for one other samurai. RW is probably best.

To add to it, Yuriko and Kaseto seem to be newer. In Agents of Artifice (canon withstanding) Jace went back to Kamigawa to deal with some stuff on Tezzeret's behalf, so their is room I think for some more 'modern' legends from their.

With all the world building they've done and how well these places are usually fleshed out, I'm having a real hard time thinking of any character to choose from myself that doesn't get covered in some scope these days. Mileva from Ravnica? Maybe a legendary Archon from the early days of Theros, before the gods. A new Michiko after her 'ascension'. Hmm... Maybe I am remembering more than I thought.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:49 pm
by RxPhantom
We still need an Ashnod and a Tormod, right?

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:50 pm
by toctheyounger
Ashnod would be cool if done well. Her Altar is infamous, so you’d hope if/when she gets a printing they’d do it some justice. They already have a tag line for her with her nickname ‘Ashnod the Uncaring’.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:51 am
by void_nothing
We actually need quite a few Thran and Brothers' War era characters like Glacian and Tocasia...

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:07 pm
by Candlemane
I just thought of the original guild Paruns of Ravnica that never lived into the first block, all from the time Azor was there (which could also someday mean we get him as a walker card).

There's also so potential from Argentum's past, before Memnarch took total control of the plane. Maybe another legendary Golem or something.

I'm still also awaiting the day we get The Fourth Sister of Gisela, Bruna and Sigrada.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:03 pm
by void_nothing
Right, of the first-go-round guild leaders, only debatably five - Niv-Mizzet, Razia, Szadek, Rakdos, some of the Obzedat - were Paruns. We've NEVER seen Cisarzim, Svogthir (himself and not Svogthos), Mat'Selesnya (ditto outside of Vitu-Ghazi), or "Doctor Simic" on a card.

By the same token we need the Tarkiri clan founders. Ilagra is a big need for me.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:39 am
by motleyslayer
I'd like to see Tocasia, Ashnod and Gix for sure. Especially Ashnod

I love seeing really old characters finally getting cards

finally getting Urza and Yawgmoth made me happy

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:49 am
by vandertroll
I'd like to see a retooled EDH playable Gerrard Capashen

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:11 pm
by Candlemane
vandertroll wrote:
5 years ago
I'd like to see a retooled EDH playable Gerrard Capashen
That would be cool. I really like what they did with Mirri for the Commander deck.

I'd also like another Ashling. RW or RG might be cool, though I think if I see her again she'll be R with a WUBRG ability the way things are going. I wouldn't be mad.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:35 pm
by SocorroTortoise
Candlemane wrote:
5 years ago
I'm still also awaiting the day we get The Fourth Sister of Gisela, Bruna and Sigrada.
This is a good one. I'm always down to build an interesting angel legend or an interesting BW legend and I've seen this mentioned before, so there's community interest as well.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:41 am
by Jace
I really hope we get more of the Kamigawa book legends, which includes the All-Consuming Oni of Chaos. My personal favorite is Choryu from Minamo Academy. I am hoping most for that one.

The other two I want are Thanasis and Pavios from the story Emonberry Red set on Theros. The gay Theros Pyramus and Thisbe analogs, which I really want either on cards or at least depicted on a "Myth Card" the way Fated Infatuation references Narcissus, for example. Say, a Saga that depicts their tragic love story, as an idea. Either way, a card to encompass that story and myth.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:37 pm
by 5colorsrainbow
Hal and Alena, Rat, Cisarzim, Svogthir, Mat'Selesnya and "Simic".

I would also love to see the Bolas-bug gods pre-Bolas.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:54 pm
by Jivanmukta
Ethan has said he wants a new Gerrard, MaRo has Gix on his list of characters people want, the same list that had Urza, Yawg, Fblthp, that UG island thing. Both of them are "when" not "if".

I personally want ghost Szadek, Svogthir, Croag, a Kerrick/K'rrik transform legend, Belbe, and Gatha/Kreig partners.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:58 pm
by Jace
“UG island thing” is Arixmethes

>_>;

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:17 pm
by Jivanmukta
Jace wrote:
5 years ago
“UG island thing” is Arixmethes

>_>;
Yea that thing.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 pm
by RedDeckTries
Gryffid was a reasonably sized part of two novels (my mind has all but blocked Eventide out if he has a large roll there), but went on to appear exactly once on the Morningtide version of Disperse.

Re: Old characters left for legends?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:40 pm
by void_nothing
Yeah, there seem to also be Lorwyn and Shadowmoor characters missing cards - Mistmeadow Jack Chierdagh and Colfenor spring to mind.