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Today, I was at another forum, then saw a post saying Noah Bradley was "let go" by wotc. Is there a truth to this? Would he still be doing mtg art or not?

The news surprised me.. so need a bit of verification on this.

Yeah.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/a ... 2020-06-22

thanks, so it's true after all.

another artist bites the dust.

I was thinking about it and you know how many amazing artists there are in the world? So dang many. I have multiple friends who are artists of a quality to draw magic cards.

Not like there's a shortage of amazing artists who aren't creepers.

I guess there really is a legit reason to kick him out.

At least this is a legit reason based on (seemingly) criminal behavior. You will notice, however, that they are unwilling to fork over the cash to make sure his upcoming art doesn't get printed. Their principles are less important than their bottom line it seems.

robertleva wrote: ↑

3 years ago

At least this is a legit reason based on (seemingly) criminal behavior. You will notice, however, that they are unwilling to fork over the cash to make sure his upcoming art doesn't get printed. Their principles are less important than their bottom line it seems.

As a business, this is the one thing you can count on.

Their principles only exist to further their bottom line. Though most people create their principles retroactively as well.

I agree that using the art he already produced undermines their argument (and let's face it, companies tend to allow bad behavior until they feel public pressure), but their stance isn't that his art is offensive, but that they do not want to continue to employ someone who does what he did. They already paid for the art that he already delivered, so printing that art is not continuing his employment. It would have been a stronger statement if they replaced the art for all upcoming sets, rather than just the ones that are furthest out or easiest to change (because they have actually said they are replacing some of his art), but it's not itself a necessary step, especially considering how far in advance of releases that product gets made, packaged, and shipped.

That said, I'm interested in how aware wizards was of this guy's behavior over the years. Keep in mind this is in the context of the company having a controversy over how they choose to hire artists and accusations of racial discrimination being levies at them. This guy's art isn't bad, but it's not great or special, and if he had these rumors dogging him but they picked him over similarly talented artists who aren't creepers that's a bad look.

pokken wrote: ↑

3 years ago

Not like there's a shortage of amazing artists who aren't creepers.

This is the crux of the issue for me. I don't expect WotC to vet the personal lives of their artists, but I do expect them to listen when allegations come to light. This whole thing bums me out though. I met him at a GP and he was really cool. He signed a bunch of cards, talked with me about a few of them, etc. I'm a big fan of is work. I cannot, however, turn a blind eye to his behavior, and I think this is the right move.

Side note, can you imagine how many awesome Louis CK specials we'd have had by now if he wasn't a horrible sex monster?

I saw a few people on twitter retweet something Noah shared a few days before WotC made their announcement. Once I saw Noah's post, I wasn't surprised WotC took this action.

Getting rid of any associations with people like this is the correct move

RxPhantom wrote: ↑

3 years ago

pokken wrote: ↑

3 years ago

Not like there's a shortage of amazing artists who aren't creepers.

This is the crux of the issue for me. I don't expect WotC to vet the personal lives of their artists, but I do expect them to listen when allegations come to light. This whole thing bums me out though. I met him at a GP and he was really cool. He signed a bunch of cards, talked with me about a few of them, etc. I'm a big fan of is work. I cannot, however, turn a blind eye to his behavior, and I think this is the right move.

Side note, can you imagine how many awesome Louis CK specials we'd have had by now if he wasn't a horrible sex monster?

As he wasn't particularly funny to begin with, just crass, none?

I can't really say I am surprised that WotC are cutting him off, If even half the things I've heard about Noah is true, then he is a real piece of work.

user_938036 wrote: ↑

3 years ago

robertleva wrote: ↑

3 years ago

At least this is a legit reason based on (seemingly) criminal behavior. You will notice, however, that they are unwilling to fork over the cash to make sure his upcoming art doesn't get printed. Their principles are less important than their bottom line it seems.

As a business, this is the one thing you can count on.

Their principles only exist to further their bottom line. Though most people create their principles retroactively as well.

Lol spot on!

pokken wrote: ↑

3 years ago

I was thinking about it and you know how many amazing artists there are in the world? So dang many. I have multiple friends who are artists of a quality to draw magic cards.

Not like there's a shortage of amazing artists who aren't creepers.

sorry, forgot to reply to this.

yeah, I agree. Have been seeing some fanart floating around google that are just as good as real mtg cards.