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MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:31 pm
by 5colorsrainbow
Not sure we are getting any stories for this set but figured I'd make this thread just to put down any new info we get such as;

Tamiyo sparking story had her originally as a student who found a book that was written from another plane then Kamigawa. This lead Tamiyo to realize there was a who multiverse out there and the emotions she felt learning this knowelege is what made her spark ignite.

We are also getting a cycle of planeswalkers and seemly each start off monocolored and then trasnforms into a two color planeswalker that rewards you for having the other color. So far known is;

Ajani W(R)
Tamiyo U(G) (guessing at green but most likely

This likely means we can also guess at the other walkers if we look at ones who have a mono-colored based and later is two colors and possibly they may all be enemy colored as Ajani and (likely) Tamiyo already are.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:04 pm
by 5colorsrainbow
My own guesses (based on what we know about colors so wotc might make someone new/ bring a past character first card or have a normally two color walker appeare as mono color/have a mono-colored character gain a second color);

B- The mono-black character we have ; Liliana, Sorin, Nixilis, Davriel, Szat, Vraska, Ashiok. I think we can knock out Liliana for already having a transform card, Ashiok since part of their thing is we don't know what they are or where they came from. I think it might be Sorin as he is popular and this could be a cool story moment to show his creature side as a human. Ob, while similar, also already got his human form on a card. Vraska might also be possible, as well as Kaya since they noted a few times Kaya could be core black.

R- For red we have; Chandra, Sarkhan, Koth, Tibalt, Daretti, Jaya, Rowan, Lukka, Jeska. We can knock out Chandra right off the bat, Rowan is unlikely since she and Will would need like a meld card or to share it again and Jaya, Koth and Jeska as they are mono-colored and maybe Lukka as it seemed he only gained g after compleation (tho I could see the argument he was secondary green). That leaves Sarkhan, Tibalt and Daretti. Tibalt and Daretti have some visual story telling (Tibalt being human and Daretti pre-accident), while I feel like Sarkhan is often used as the face for red after Chandra and if we are going enemy colors it would make the most sense. I personally hope its Daretti since I feel like he hasn't gotten a good chance to shine in the story yet.

G- Finally green gives us; Garruk, Nissa, Freyalise, Arlinn, Yanggu, Vivien, Tyvar. We can cross out Nissa for already having one and then Freyalise, Yanggu and Vivien for being mono-colored and we are left with. Garruk, Arlinn, Tyvar. Since Arlinns thing is being a transform walker they might have her here since we are using transform mechincs and I ~think~ Tyvar is generally well liked. That said, I really feel like it should be Garruk here since he is the characters past we know the least amount so far. His origin comic dosen't state what plane he is from and it dosen't out right state that his fathers death is what sparked him or if that was later on in the wild so thats a lot in there they can explore.

So my guesses are;
B- Sorin B(W)
R- Sarkhan R (U) (but fingers crossed for Daretti)
G- Garruk G (B) (but fingers crossed for Arlinn)
C- Ugin (surprise but as we do have a colorless theme it would be cool to get a Ugin to mirror Bolas)

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:25 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Well sorin is probably the most likely for orzhov like you said if enemy color pairs

But I'm interested if we're gonna get deeper lore on the Eldrazi's, the reason is the basic land arts don't feel zendikar nor innistrad to me.

Plains - I don't recall zendikar having fields like that
Island - while the look fits it's not floating in the air
Swamp - that looks like a desert like area and innistrad if it were there would be far more broken trees
Mountain — this one's easy Pine trees are not native zendikar at all
Forest — that's probably the only one that could be on zendikar but that triangle shape more in front surface is wrong for a hedron (could be kozilek bismuth though)

Maybe a art depicting the one nahiri witness offically being destroyed by the eldrazi

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:05 am
by void_nothing
Yeah, I expect to find out a few more things about the Eldrazi, specifically their past and what other planes they've consumed (maybe Equilor is feeling the effects of the Eldrazi titans arriving at the dawn of time). We might also see non-titan named Eldrazi like Zhulodok.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:28 pm
by CommanderMaster999
void_nothing wrote:
3 months ago
Yeah, I expect to find out a few more things about the Eldrazi, specifically their past and what other planes they've consumed (maybe Equilor is feeling the effects of the Eldrazi titans arriving at the dawn of time). We might also see non-titan named Eldrazi like Zhulodok.
Well I'm almost certain on one new thing about the Eldrazi

The face commander of the WUBRGC deck is a famous brood of kozilek just like Zhulodok, Void Gorger as a famous Ulamog brood. (the eye's on nearly any body part and the floaters are the features of kozilek brood)

And if I were to take a guess on a potential side commander for that deck it's likely one of three scenarios
  1. Famous Brood/Eldrazi Conscription of Emrakul
  2. Brisela, Voice of Nightmares 2.0 (technically is a famous emrakul brood/Eldrazi Conscription)
  3. Ugin (to remind on lore he mostly sticks with c but he knows how to do WUBRG stuff.)

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:43 am
by Avacyn Believer
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
3 months ago
Brisela, Voice of Nightmares 2.0 (technically is a famous emrakul brood/Eldrazi Conscription)
This would be cool, I'd be down for an Eldrazi Angel that has more colours than white.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:44 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Hey guys

Turns out Amazon also Best Buy and a couple of others has descriptions on the decks in the single deck box pages… they mention the face commander names.

BRG — turns out this legend is on flavor text on old cards from Richard Garfield era of "Domnaria" cards her name is "Disa" as in "Disa the Restless" for examples Balduvian Bears, Hoar Shade, and Anarchy

Gu — is infact the person in the flavor text of Helm of the Host she's the queen of Vesuva but to be specific "Omo, Queen of Vesuva"

URW — The energy decks commander goes by the name of "Satya" only lore we got is he's a architect and a inventor. (Clearly from kaladesh from his arm piece)

WUBRGC — …..actually….. this commanders name is gonna cause a huge amount of speculation on the lore. This commanders name is… are you ready for this…. The eldrazi's name is "Ulalek"…. Im not kidding. So this could easily cause enormous speculation.

1. Could this be Ulamog and kozilek reincarnated as one?
2. Or is it a famous spawn both Ulamog and kozilek made?
3. Could be a Ulamog and kozilek version of Brisela, Voice of Nightmares

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:12 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Ok this is so rare it's worth a mention

There will be a story for MH3 on May 13th

But it's mostly Eldrazi related and also mostly the rise and fall of them. And reboots of the orginal story's

But probably like the "Brothers war" story revisit we will probably add some new stuff filling in the blanks of the orginal lore for examples

Maybe seeing the one plane nahiri witnessed being destroyed by the eldrazi.
Clearly probably one blank is deeper lore on Zhulodok, and how Uladek happened
Unofficial Spoiler Discussion
And Azlask lore (we weren't suppose to know about Azlask til later.)

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 5:27 pm
by 5colorsrainbow
Got the three other walkers (not in leaks);

Sorin who sparked when his grandfather turned him into a vampire
Ral who sparked when he found his bf cheating on him
Grist whose story is unknown atm but card hints she sparked when she also learned her necromancy magics.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:47 pm
by void_nothing
Interestingly, the pattern of colors puts Grist as originally monogreen, making her probably a more benign... eusocial-insect-sapient-queen?

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 10:01 am
by 5colorsrainbow
void_nothing wrote:
2 weeks ago
Interestingly, the pattern of colors puts Grist as originally monogreen, making her probably a more benign... eusocial-insect-sapient-queen?
The BOOM comics for Magic had a one shot with her that fits your thought of green being her core color and semi-benign being. The comics are there own canon but the characterizations where kept from canon so I could argue the same for Grist here.

Ajani and Tamiyo look into stories that told of a swarm of insects that seem to travel across planes leaving devastation. Ajani uses his soul magic to connect to Grist and leaned she is indeed a planeswalker. Just like how we tend to right off bugs as non-being, Grist didn't realize humans/humanoids/ect where people like her and hadn't realized the damage she would bring when she would make swarms. Grist now knowing agreed to keep her feasting in more control and eat from sources humans/humanoids/ect weren't depending on.

From the Visual Guide (a thread I could bring over from Sally as it did have a lot of useful info) Grist is stated to be the queen of a hive and each time she planeswalk she has to start the hive anew, the hive bug often specialize in specific jobs or functions, Grist seems to be both the queen of the hive and the hive mind of the hive and she uses magical chemical to cause necrosis and can reanimate corpses by using the swarm.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 4:46 pm
by void_nothing
Cool thing is we're now confirmed to get a Saga cycle depicting the new transform 'walkers - Ajani Fells the Godsire, Tamiyo Meets the Story Circle, The Hunger Tide Rises, and the unspoiled ones for Sorin and Ral.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 9:45 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Look at this


hyde-the-toad-bard asked: So I understand the eldrazi to be colorless because they exist outside the color pie, and some of the colored eldrazi to the mutations of creatures into eldrazi, but how do the five color eldrazi, which seem to be titans themselves, work.


Jay: Ulalek is not a Titan, but a spawn of both lineages (hence the fused bit). Think of it like Ulamog and Kozilek held hands or touched by accident and this manifested. It has devoid, it's still colorless it's just like other low level spawn it's closer to our reality and was made by consuming it. At least that's how I interpret devoid.

Azlask is not five colors, but has a five color cost, probably signifying consumption.
So…Ulalek .is not a fusion of Ulamog and kozilek. It's a accidental Frankenstein of Ulamog and kozilek making a lineage as if they accidentally touched each other while both were making one

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 10:47 am
by Avacyn Believer
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
1 week ago
a lineage as if they accidentally touched each other while both were making one
Sounds like parents explaining where babies come from to kids :rofl:

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:20 pm
by CommanderMaster999
it now just occured to me

wizards gently shown that new planes can come to existence

Image

there was a conspiracy theory that the eldrazis purpose is recycling planes.

could this give creditability to that theory? basically they eldrazi head over to the dying planes to put them to rest. so these new ones can exist thus preventing too many planes from existing.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:35 pm
by Avacyn Believer
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 days ago
could this give creditability to that theory? basically they eldrazi head over to the dying planes to put them to rest. so these new ones can exist thus preventing too many planes from existing.
I don't know, Zendikar never given me an impression it was a dying plane until the Eldrazi tried to delete it. Maybe they do recycle but on random and violent basis.

As far as new planes, it wasn't all that uncommon before with Planewalkers making them. And HM3 seems to be themed around the times of back then, at least some of it.

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:53 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Avacyn Believer wrote:
4 days ago
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 days ago
could this give creditability to that theory? basically they eldrazi head over to the dying planes to put them to rest. so these new ones can exist thus preventing too many planes from existing.
I don't know, Zendikar never given me an impression it was a dying plane until the Eldrazi tried to delete it. Maybe they do recycle but on random and violent basis.

As far as new planes, it wasn't all that uncommon before with Planewalkers making them. And HM3 seems to be themed around the times of back then, at least some of it.
Yes but I hear eldrazi's were tricked or lured to zendikar by ugin so they were supposedly taken away from the route

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:48 am
by Avacyn Believer
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 days ago
Yes but I hear eldrazi's were tricked or lured to zendikar by ugin so they were supposedly taken away from the route
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Where is that from?

Re: MH3 -Modern Horizons 3 Lore

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:17 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Avacyn Believer wrote:
3 days ago
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 days ago
Yes but I hear eldrazi's were tricked or lured to zendikar by ugin so they were supposedly taken away from the route
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Where is that from?
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Eldrazi

The Three decided to force the Eldrazi into physical form and trap them on a plane, sacrificing that plane for the well-being of the Multiverse. They searched for a plane with lush ecosystems and uniquely dynamic mana—a powerful lure for the Eldrazi's insatiable hunger. They decided on Nahiri's own Zendikar. Sorin Markov lured the Eldrazi to the plane, directing their hunger to that unique mana, Ugin used his invisible breath to combat the Eldrazi and his colorless magic to bind them to the plane, and Nahiri had constructed a massive network of stone hedrons, whose power would form the bars of a planewide prison, forever preventing the Eldrazi from leaving.[23] Ugin arranged the hedrons to direct leylines of energy, which were not to be disrupted.

The planeswalkers concentrated the power of their imprisonment spell in a secret location deep inside Zendikar's mountains of Akoum: a subterranean chamber called the Eye of Ugin. To make sure that the imprisonment would not be broken, the three planeswalkers sealed the chamber with a mystical lock: the Eye of Ugin could only be reactivated by the presence of three planeswalker sparks—and the colorless, invisible breath of Ugin, the spirit dragon himself. The planeswalkers' trap worked. Emrakul, Ulamog, and Kozilek manifested in physical form on Zendikar, became confined by the magic of the network of hedrons, and thanks to the magic of the imprisonment spell, sank into harmless dormancy. Their mission was complete, and the planeswalkers disbanded. Sorin and Ugin left the plane, while Nahiri remained to watch over Zendikar and protect the Eldrazi's prison.[23]