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The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:46 pm
by Chromaticus
@Dunadain's
Yidaro, Wandering Monster monster thread got me thinking, because I briefly played a
Yidaro, Wandering Monster Jeskai control deck in the early Ikoria standard - 4 Yidaro's all cycling for profit and an eventual beater…
What would be your o in for the best card in Commander to receive the
Relentless Rats treatment.
It's probably just
Sol Ring — but let's go with cards that have some inherent self-synergy for the thought exercise!
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:21 pm
by Dunadain
All the
Battalion Foot Soldier type cards (there are three of them) get very silly.
Biovisionary probably decent. Maybe
Hedron Alignment.
All the cards with "whenever ~ or another ___ enter the battlefield" become fun. Things like
Field of the Dead or
Thieves' Guild Enforcer.
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:58 am
by Treamayne
I'm not sure what the bolded part is supposed to say, but I think you are asking what cards should have "you may play any number of <this>." Is that correct?
There's probably more, but that's off of the top of my shiny bald pate.
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:32 am
by darrenhabib
Accumulated Knowledge would get out-of-hand pretty quickly. You'll be discarding a bunch of
Accumulated Knowledge due to hand size. So you'll be doubling each time you discard end of turn.
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:40 am
by folding_music
Surging Aether seems ummm balanced when you have 59 of them in yr deck
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:41 am
by Dunharrow
I am less interested in cards that can have any number of copies and more interested in cards like
Nazgûl and
Seven Dwarves that allow you to play a few more copies in Commander.
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:43 pm
by TheAmericanSpirit
Anything with Ripple would be instantly bonkers. Things like
Charmed Stray also get pretty nutty with great alacrity.
For my money though, the best overall card to have this effect would be
Rite of Flame or
Manamorphose. Easy mode storm right there.
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:38 pm
by Ruiner
Furnace of Rath
Let's get this game done quick.
Re: The Best Relentless Rats
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:17 am
by DirkGently
Dunharrow wrote: ↑8 months ago
I am less interested in cards that can have any number of copies and more interested in cards like
Nazgûl and
Seven Dwarves that allow you to play a few more copies in Commander.
Agreed - having 9 nazgul adds some consistency in a fun and balanced way. Having 45 relentless rats and a bunch of tutors for
Thrumming Stone makes for consistency in an extremely tedious way.
But as far as the prompt, I know ripple already got mentioned but surely
Surging Flame is the correct answer. 65 copies or so, plus some lands and as many
Lotus Petal adjacent cards as you can find. Pretty close to a guaranteed T1 win, even through countermagic.