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Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:33 pm
by toctheyounger
So I made an offhand comment in the new card thread about the possibility of building a Grail based deck now that we have a whole lot of Arthurian legend tech from Eldraine.
I've done theme decks in the past, and while I don't for a minute think this is a deck that could in any way be considered competitive, feasibly win a game, or do anything other than meld two nerd cultures, it's still a fun thought experiment to me. I'm not at all sure I want to actually build such a deck, so I thought it might be a cool idea to think-tank it with other Python fans. Because sometimes it's not about winning; sometimes it's about requesting that your opponents cut down the tallest tree in the forest wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiith.....a HERRING!
Here's the major characters/plot points of the film. Feel free to suggest must includes, and let's see if we can round out a deck!
- King Arthur
Kenrith, the Returned King
- Patsy, his trusty steed
Squire
Noble Squires
- Excalibur
Embercleave
- Sir Bedevere the Wise
- Sir Lancelot the Brave
- Sir Galahad the Pure
- Sir Robin the Not-Quite-So-Brave-as-Sir-Lancelot
Norin the Wary
- Sir Not-Appearing-in-this-Film
Crib Swap
- Historian
Kaho, Minamo Historian
- Dennis
- 'I am your king.' 'Well I didn't vote for you'
Plea for Power
- 'The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king!'
Emry, Lurker of the Loch
- "Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. "
Council's Judgment
- 'Help! Help! I'm being repressed!'
- Witch
Mistmeadow Witch
- 'She turned me into a newt!......I got better.'
Frogify
- 'BUUUURN THE WITCH!!'
Unruly Mob
Witch Hunt
- Black Knight
Oathsworn Knight
- ''Tis but a Scratch'
Festering Wound
- Camelot
- 'Let's not go to Camelot. 'Tis a silly place.'
Fork in the Road
- French Soldiers
Goblin Diplomats
Taunting Elf
- 'Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!'
Provoke
- 'Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!'
Taunt
- Trojan Rabbit
Akroan Horse
- Catapult
Skull Catapult
Bartered Cow
- Holy Grail
Chalice of Life
- Knights who say Ni
- 'You must find.......A SHRUBBERY!'
Vine Trellis
- 'Chop down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!'
Mystic Remora
- Three-headed knight
- Castle Anthrax
Castle Ardenvale
- Tim the Enchanter
Prodigal Sorcerer
- Rabbit of Caerbannog
Rabid Wombat
- Brother Maynard
- The Holy hand grenade of Antioch
Ratchet Bomb
- The Beast of Aaaargh
Scour from Existence
- Castle of Aaargh
- Swamp Castle
Castle Lochtwain
- Bridge of Death
Ensnaring Bridge
- Bridge Keeper
Gadwick the Wizened
- African and Indian Swallows
Colourful Feiyi Sparrow
- Police
Azorious Arrester
Arrest
Deputy of Detention
Clearly there's no dramas if this doesn't end up working out. I just thought I should at least make an effort to back up my wild proclamations, and thought it might be fun to enlist any Python fans to help make it happen.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:46 pm
by Feyd_Ruin
I vote
Oathsworn Knight instead.
Prodigal Sorcerer|26039
This was decided
long ago.
We do have one
Sparrow. It's not very good, but it's better than the
Squire you already have >_<
I think for several of these, you're just going to have to alter the art to make it fit.
There's no "3 headed knight", but there's decent flavorfully-named/ability knights you could choose and then have someone paint a three headed knight on there
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:51 pm
by TheGildedGoose
Lancelot
must have haste.
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn for Sir Not Appearing in this Film.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:06 pm
by The N82O Molecule
I am in love with this and I will ponder cards
rabid wombat - its no bunny but
you may need a trebuchet and random stuff to shoot in case you are taunted a second time
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:09 pm
by toctheyounger
Feyd_Ruin wrote: ↑4 years ago
I vote
Oathsworn Knight instead.
Prodigal Sorcerer|26039
This was decided
long ago.
We do have one
Sparrow. It's not very good, but it's better than the
Squire you already have >_<
I think for several of these, you're just going to have to alter the art to make it fit.
There's no "3 headed knight", but there's decent flavorfully-named/ability knights you could choose and then have someone paint a three headed knight on there
Oathsworn is in. No doubt.
Prodigal Sorcerer, yes, it's not a contest at all.
Patsy has to be
Squire. Look at the likeness:
Sparrow I'm convinced with. It'll do just fine.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:11 pm
by toctheyounger
The N82O Molecule wrote: ↑4 years ago
rabid wombat - its no bunny but
you may need a trebuchet and random stuff to shoot in case you are taunted a second time
All great ideas.
Rabid Wombat is kind of perfect. None of the other rabbits really suit perfectly.
edit - Assuming there's no arguments against this addition?
'She turned me into a newt!......I got better.'
Frogify
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:20 pm
by Skello496
"Chop down the tallest tree in the forest with... A HERRING!"
Mystic Remora
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:49 pm
by Feyd_Ruin
Going fairly random with "Hey.. this sounds like it fits" list.
Taunting Elf
"Now go away, before he taunts you a second time!"
Vine Trellis or
Nature's Lore or
Treefolk Harbinger (if any other treefolk?)
"You must find... A SHRUBBERRY!!!!"
Plea for Power
"I am your king."
"Well I didn't vote for you. "
"What? Ridden on a horse?"
"Yes!"
"You're using coconuts!"
Festering Wound
" It's Only a flesh wound."
Provoke
"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries"
Fork in the Road
"On second thought lets NOT go to Camelot, tis a silly place"
Any of the Sword of XY Series, etc
" You think your king just because some hag threw a sword at you?"
Emry, Lurker of the Loch
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government…"
Council's Judgment
"Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. "
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:01 am
by toctheyounger
[mention]Feyd_Ruin[/mention] that alter is exquisite, and all of these make excellent additions. We're coming along nicely here.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:05 am
by toctheyounger
GloriousGoose wrote: ↑4 years ago
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn for Sir Not Appearing in this Film.
I feel like Em fits better for the Beast of Aaaaaaargh. The one that disappears when the animator has a sudden heart attack.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:23 am
by CTNC
Sir Not Appearing in This Film was a baby and there aren't many of those in this game for obvious reasons.
Crib Swap might work because of removing a baby,
but I'd use the only creature that looks like a baby, Child of Alara Edit: Actually, use Crib Swap so he doesn't appear in this deck!
Sir Robin is slightly braver than
Norin the Wary, but way less brave than anything else, so I'd pick him.
Wasn't there a historian that got killed?
Kaho, Minamo Historian is the only historian, so if we want him there's not many choices.
The Beast of Aaaaaaargh was
Scoured from Existence, so...
As for the ending,
Arrest. 'nuf said.
Edit: The french catapult should get some cards too. There's a few catapults, (and one trebuchet,) but only
Skull Catapult makes you sacrifice a creature. As for ammo,
Bartered Cow is the only cow unless you'd rather have an ox. Also, I'm not sure if
Akroan Horse as the Trojan Rabbit works because of being based on the same thing or is a flavor fail when someone who doesn't sacrifice it immediately gains control of it.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:26 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Kezzerdrix is the closet thing to the killer rabbit and it stinks
Anything else rabbit like that's deadly
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:36 pm
by TheGildedGoose
toctheyounger wrote: ↑4 years ago
GloriousGoose wrote: ↑4 years ago
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn for Sir Not Appearing in this Film.
I feel like Em fits better for the Beast of Aaaaaaargh. The one that disappears when the animator has a sudden heart attack.
Well, Emmy is banned, and wouldn't be able to appear in the deck, so I was thinking...
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:47 pm
by Lysyc12
I actually used to have a casual Holy Grail theme deck way back in the day. I don't remember the whole decklist, but some of the standouts that I haven't see here yet were:
Sir Robin
Craven Knight
Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film
Knight of the Mists (always not paying the
U and targeting himself.
"Go away, or I shall taunt you a second time"
Taunt
Killer Bunny
Kezzerdrix
"It's just a flesh wound"
Cursed Flesh (the Exodus version has a guy's arms falling off)
Obviously, these all sacrifice playability for theme, so you know, judgement call.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:38 am
by toctheyounger
Have made some further additions as suggested, and while I can say this isn't going to be a successful deck, it will certainly be a silly one.
CTNC wrote: ↑4 years ago
Sir Robin is slightly braver than Norin the Wary, but way less brave than anything else, so I'd pick him.
Wasn't there a historian that got killed? Kaho, Minamo Historian is the only historian, so if we want him there's not many choices.
The Beast of Aaaaaaargh was Scoured from Existence, so...
As for the ending, Arrest. 'nuf said.
Edit: The french catapult should get some cards too. There's a few catapults, (and one trebuchet,) but only Skull Catapult makes you sacrifice a creature. As for ammo, Bartered Cow is the only cow unless you'd rather have an ox. Also, I'm not sure if Akroan Horse as the Trojan Rabbit works because of being based on the same thing or is a flavor fail when someone who doesn't sacrifice it immediately gains control of it.
All of this is pretty good stuff. The historian needs to be in so that there's a reason for Lancelot getting nicked by the fuzz at the end. And I think
Akroan Horse is as close as we'll get. There's no way we can make sure it flops, so I think you just need to suspend disbelief here.
CommanderMaster999 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Kezzerdrix is the closet thing to the killer rabbit and it stinks
Anything else rabbit like that's deadly
We've got
Rabid Wombat for a reasonable fill in. It's...probably about as close as we'll get to be fair.
GloriousGoose wrote: ↑4 years ago
Well, Emmy is banned, and wouldn't be able to appear in the deck, so I was thinking...
Fair point. Em can be in the illegal sideboard.
Lysyc12 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Obviously, these all sacrifice playability for theme, so you know, judgement call.
Hey, we're here for historical accuracy and trueness to a theme. I'm personally under no illusions regarding this deck ever in a million years playing successfully. I like
Taunt btw, it's in.
I've gone with some Azorius guild cards for the police. What do we think for the Bridge of Death bridgekeeper? I was thinking maybe
Djinn of Wishes for the three question vibe?
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:47 am
by Dunharrow
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:58 pm
by toctheyounger
Both good suggestions. It leaves me without a Castle of Aaargh, but probably suits better as the castle built on three ruins in a swamp.
Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Let's Brew!)
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:41 am
by Legend
Camelot =
Castle
Rabbit =
Vizzerdrix