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[ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:33 pm
by Marquis

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:38 pm
by void_nothing
What a fun alt-win! I guess if Coalition Victory will continue to be banned in EDH then we can have this nice replacement for all those white-but-WUBRG commanders.

Not really white card draw in the sense we were expecting (like Mentor of the Meek) though, more like group hug benefits cantripping.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:39 pm
by Rumpy5897
the soft hissing of EDH players' deflating hopes for white's "new thing" being useful echoes across the land

(this is probably said card, as per maro. dammit)

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:54 pm
by 5colorsrainbow
Huh so white now gets "each player draws a card".

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:57 pm
by Taleran
So the quickest way to do this is with

Dryad Arbor + Aftermath Instant/Sorcery + This card in Play + Artifact/Tribal/Planeswalker in play or Yard.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:05 pm
by CommanderMaster999
Taleran wrote:
4 years ago
So the quickest way to do this is with

Dryad Arbor + Aftermath Instant/Sorcery + This card in Play + Artifact/Tribal/Planeswalker in play or Yard.
You need one of each color in play too but that's just simply your commander or any of the following
And Scrapbasket or Scuttlemutt (Activate while happily ever after check is on the stack)

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:06 pm
by ISBPathfinder
Seriously, can you stop making white rares be actually 5 color cards. Why does this keep happening to white of late?

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:08 pm
by Serenade
So Oko turns the king into an elk, the knights search for him, find him, and everyone is mostly happy?

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:16 pm
by The N82O Molecule
my favorite part of the article

"I'm going to skip talking about the power level of this card in Limited, because you've really got to set up a house pretty permanently in Magical Christmas Land for this to ever do anything remotely resembling winning the game."

allow me to translate if I may

"this is a sh** card in limited" hahahahahaha

[mention]Serenade[/mention]
I agree. . .like, no rended continents, no castles lost, no fear the plane is going to implode/explose, no sinister King vying for power.

just a har har har, lemme tell you a silly story about the time the King got turned into a elk. . .haha, he was the elk. . .oh man can you believe it. . .wench! another mead for me and my friend here as we folly over cute stories

I need a blightsteel colossus come over and lay some waste around indiscriminately

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:22 pm
by Taleran
ISBPathfinder wrote:
4 years ago
Seriously, can you stop making white rares be actually 5 color cards. Why does this keep happening to white of late?
This is very strange and it is more cards than is just a coincidence at this point.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:29 pm
by CalebLost
ISBPathfinder wrote:
4 years ago
Seriously, can you stop making white rares be actually 5 color cards. Why does this keep happening to white of late?
IIRC Maro said something on the line that White being the color of community and working together tends to favor cards that are white but secretly all colors combined

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:55 pm
by Serenade
I'm fine with this story, of course. Just want to confirm that we just run into a little mischief and finally don't have to deal with some Big Bad over a course of years. I just want...to observe and explore new planes. Meet new peoples. That's what "being the player/planeswalker" means to me!

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:05 pm
by Rumpy5897
Curtain. MARO and PLAYERS

MARO: Hohoho, folks! Eldraine is fantastic! In 2019 you'll love WAR, MH1 and ELD!
PLAYERS: Oh boy! Can't wait!
MARO: Oh yeah and we're also gonna be trying a minor new thing for white in EDH!
PLAYERS: Hype!
spoilers roll in
PLAYERS: We love Eldraine!
RUMPY: I don't love Eldraine, the whole thing reeks of Shrek and Food is a parasitic mecha-
RUMPY deposited out the window
MARO: Glad that you're happy!
PLAYERS: So where's the cool new awesome white thing that will make it not suck in EDH?
MARO: It's coming.
Happily Ever After hits
PLAYERS: ...so that's it?
MARO: Yep. Well, I did say minor.
PLAYERS: But how's this new? Temporary Truce is a thing. Parley is this with benefits.
MARO: Look, I'm sorry
PLAYERS: Also where's the food legend? It seemed you learned that when you make a mechanical thing in a set, you have to print a legend to support it after KLD and energy. You were hyping that one too. Where's the food legend MaRo?

Curtain

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:22 pm
by 5colorsrainbow
Serenade wrote:
4 years ago
I'm fine with this story, of course. Just want to confirm that we just run into a little mischief and finally don't have to deal with some Big Bad over a course of years. I just want...to observe and explore new planes. Meet new peoples. That's what "being the player/planeswalker" means to me!
Well this is suppose to be the start of a new story arc;
SPOILER
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With one thread being that Oko did escape and Garruk isn't going after him (yet). Oko also seem very interested in the fact that Garruk knew Liliana.
However again there are a few other things I can think off that could happen from here.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:44 am
by theMarc
Rumpy5897 wrote:
4 years ago
Also where's the food legend?
It's possible that Korvold is meant to be the food legend.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:00 am
by Serenade
Hahaha, everything became food to him!

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:25 am
by SecretInfiltrator
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 years ago
And Scrapbasket or Scuttlemutt (Activate while happily ever after check is on the stack)
Fun fact: The way intervening if-clauses work the ability won't even go onto the stack unless you already have the condition at the beginning of your upkeep, so the only reason you need to activate these after the ability is on the stack is after an opponent removed a color condition in response to the triggered ability.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:19 am
by Rumpy5897
theMarc wrote:
4 years ago
Rumpy5897 wrote:
4 years ago
Also where's the food legend?
It's possible that Korvold is meant to be the food legend.
You know what? That's not a bad hypothesis. He procs off general sacrifice, making him a more generally useful legend. I think I let my disappointment at white's "new thing" being parley get the better of me and cloud my judgment a bit.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:56 pm
by Dunharrow
I asked Maro a dozen times if Parley was in colour pie for white and he didn't answer.

I think this is the best solution. If white has answers to everything, then symmetrical card draw should favour white, right?

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:23 pm
by CommanderMaster999
SecretInfiltrator wrote:
4 years ago
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 years ago
And Scrapbasket or Scuttlemutt (Activate while happily ever after check is on the stack)
Fun fact: The way intervening if-clauses work the ability won't even go onto the stack unless you already have the condition at the beginning of your upkeep, so the only reason you need to activate these after the ability is on the stack is after an opponent removed a color condition in response to the triggered ability.
Yep I just learned that so these will be Incase we loose the 5-color creature triggers

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:04 pm
by The_Greasy_Strangler
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 years ago
SecretInfiltrator wrote:
4 years ago
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 years ago
And Scrapbasket or Scuttlemutt (Activate while happily ever after check is on the stack)
Fun fact: The way intervening if-clauses work the ability won't even go onto the stack unless you already have the condition at the beginning of your upkeep, so the only reason you need to activate these after the ability is on the stack is after an opponent removed a color condition in response to the triggered ability.
Yep I just learned that so these will be Incase we loose the 5-color creature triggers
Couldn't you just use scuttlemut in your untap step?

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:12 pm
by CommanderMaster999
The_Greasy_Strangler wrote:
4 years ago
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 years ago
SecretInfiltrator wrote:
4 years ago

Fun fact: The way intervening if-clauses work the ability won't even go onto the stack unless you already have the condition at the beginning of your upkeep, so the only reason you need to activate these after the ability is on the stack is after an opponent removed a color condition in response to the triggered ability.
Yep I just learned that so these will be Incase we loose the 5-color creature triggers
Couldn't you just use scuttlemut in your untap step?
I believe the untap phase ends in the blink of a eye and immediately goes straight upkeeps phase

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:21 pm
by theMarc
The_Greasy_Strangler wrote:
4 years ago
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 years ago
SecretInfiltrator wrote:
4 years ago
Fun fact: The way intervening if-clauses work the ability won't even go onto the stack unless you already have the condition at the beginning of your upkeep, so the only reason you need to activate these after the ability is on the stack is after an opponent removed a color condition in response to the triggered ability.
Yep I just learned that so these will be Incase we loose the 5-color creature triggers
Couldn't you just use scuttlemut in your untap step?
Players don't get priority during the untap step, so no.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:15 pm
by The_Greasy_Strangler
theMarc wrote:
4 years ago
The_Greasy_Strangler wrote:
4 years ago
CommanderMaster999 wrote:
4 years ago

Yep I just learned that so these will be Incase we loose the 5-color creature triggers
Couldn't you just use scuttlemut in your untap step?
Players don't get priority during the untap step, so no.

My bad. Back in ye olden days, you could. I think. :thinking: Now i'm doubting myself.

Re: [ELD] Mothership Spoiler 9/19 Happily Ever After

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:13 pm
by theMarc
The_Greasy_Strangler wrote:
4 years ago
theMarc wrote:
4 years ago
The_Greasy_Strangler wrote:
4 years ago
Couldn't you just use scuttlemut in your untap step?
Players don't get priority during the untap step, so no.
My bad. Back in ye olden days, you could. I think. :thinking: Now i'm doubting myself.
Back before Sixth Edition, the rules were all kinds of weird, so I wouldn't be surprised.