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Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Planewide Celebration
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:15 pm
by umtiger
4x Counters for all your PW's is quite a get from a single card.
I use this in my type 4 stack, where the incidental life gain makes the card pretty legit.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Planewide Celebration
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:55 pm
by lyonhaert
Planewide Celebration is on my short-list of cards to test in my Ramos "these walkers worked really hard on these tokens" deck whenever I get around to rebuilding it. There are a
lot of walkers where the ultimate is within 4 loyalty counters of what they start at normally. I still have a bit of a rule of not using Doubling Season in that deck, but this is the card I'm easing off my "no proliferate" rule for because it fits the deck's modal spells subtheme, and each mode is relevant to the deck.
Overall I like this card if enough of the modes are relevant to your deck.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Planewide Celebration
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:43 pm
by hyalopterouslemur
3drinks wrote: ↑2 years ago
The base cost for
Proliferate is
4 based on what we're told, which inclines me to believe this card is worth it. But idk, it's a bit fuzzy at the seven.
It's more like
Steady Progress,
Volt Charge,
Tezzeret's Gambit,
Spread the Sickness,
Bloom Hulk,
Contentious Plan,
Fuel for the Cause,
Courage in Crisis,
Grim Affliction,
Huatli's Raptor,
Wanderer's Strike,
Smell Fear, and
Kiora's Dambreaker. For a one-time effect. There are a few others for modal effects.
Still, four loyalty on each planeswalker. Or use with
Cathars' Crusade for four +1/+1 counters. (Actually, you could just use the 2/2 tokens for that. Usual
Doubling Season synergy noted.) Or with
Ichor Rats for four poison countered.
Or annoy everyone with
Tangle Wire and
Woodripper.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:47 pm
by 3drinks
Friday, December 24th, 2021;
Esika's Chariot
"Kitty Cart"!
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Planewide Celebration
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:48 pm
by 3drinks
hyalopterouslemur wrote: ↑2 years ago
3drinks wrote: ↑2 years ago
The base cost for
Proliferate is
4 based on what we're told, which inclines me to believe this card is worth it. But idk, it's a bit fuzzy at the seven.
It's more like
Steady Progress,
Volt Charge,
Tezzeret's Gambit,
Spread the Sickness,
Bloom Hulk,
Contentious Plan,
Fuel for the Cause,
Courage in Crisis,
Grim Affliction,
Huatli's Raptor,
Wanderer's Strike,
Smell Fear, and
Kiora's Dambreaker. For a one-time effect. There are a few others for modal effects.
Still, four loyalty on each planeswalker. Or use with
Cathars' Crusade for four +1/+1 counters. (Actually, you could just use the 2/2 tokens for that. Usual
Doubling Season synergy noted.) Or with
Ichor Rats for four poison countered.
Or annoy everyone with
Tangle Wire and
Woodripper.
You could also add four age counters to all your opponents cumulative upkeep cards! themoreyouknow.gif
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:41 pm
by Dunharrow
It's in the
Volo, Guide to Monsters deck I am building. Question, if you copy token made by
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or
Mimic Vat does it still get sac'd end of turn?
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:41 pm
by Serenade
The cat napping in this art is good.
Maybe it plays well with Gideon PWs? It's probably a lot more work than it is worth unless you lucked into a really neat token with
Vizier of Many Faces or
Theoretical Duplication or something.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:03 pm
by EonAon
Its a good/bad card. On one hand it creates the crew needed for it to work and if you have good etb or otherwise great effect creatures it works well. Sadly it sits in the 4cc slot which means while you can use it early not much worth copying is played before except for some tech creatures unless you extreme ramp consistently. Its also usually in the spot where your developing your field or mana early and later on you would have to attach a previously played creature to actually get activation same term rather than the kitties.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:19 pm
by lyonhaert
Still looking forward to see how well this performs in my
Esix, Fractal Bloom deck. At one point there was potential of seeing it in play (it was one of two similar choices from copying a
Burning-Rune Demon) and my opponents thought this was the more dangerous, so there's that.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:52 pm
by Guardman
It's a good card in any green token deck, especially with any doubling effects since it not only creates tokens on entry, but through swinging. Also, since it is a vehicle, it survives a lot of sweepers.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:00 pm
by Wallycaine
It depends on the specific wording of the token creation effect. The two you quoted won't be exiled/sacrificed because the sacrifice is part of the token creation effect. Contrast with
Heat Shimmer for an example of one that would require any copies to be exiled as well, since the ability is on the creature itself.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:31 pm
by hyalopterouslemur
At worst, you get two 2/2s this turn and one next turn. But you can easily create 4/4 angels, 5/5 demons, 5/5 dragons, or clones.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Esika's Chariot
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:47 am
by onering
It's pretty solid, the real downside is one nobody has mentioned: it's only a 4/4 so it dies real easy when it attacks.
Even so, if you have it in the right deck it's 4 mana for 2 2/2s and a 4/4 flying angel or something, plus one attack with a 4/4. That's a pretty decent rate for a fail state, which makes the times when it actually survives combat and gets to swing multiple times worth chasing.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Cultivator Colossus
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:46 pm
by 3drinks
Saturday, December 25th, 2021;
Cultivator Colossus
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Cultivator Colossus
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:59 pm
by pokken
Meh, boring card is boring.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Cultivator Colossus
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:10 pm
by DirkGently
It'd be sick in my 98-land deck. Too bad it isn't a land somehow.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Cultivator Colossus
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:15 pm
by Mookie
Cultivator Colossus is somewhat interesting as a ramp payoff. Most discussion I see for it is as a combo card - either in a land-heavy deck, or with
Abundance. I'm not sure how I feel about it elsewhere - by the time you hit seven mana, it's somewhat rare to still have lands left in hand. If you can
Explore two or three times, it's probably still worth it, but... hard to guarantee. Could be fun with
Alhammarret's Archive /
Teferi's Ageless Insight though.
The most obvious card to compare it to is
Ulvenwald Hydra - instead of playing lands, you can tutor one directly onto the battlefield, which makes it work well in decks with useful utility lands. I think the Hydra is going to be better for most decks - it's cheaper and more consistent. I also value reach over trample, which is worth consideration. Alternatively,
Boundless Realms is the king of seven mana ramp spells, and also seems more consistent.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Cultivator Colossus
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:44 pm
by BeneTleilax
And a merry Lands.dec wincon to all!
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Cultivator Colossus
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:35 pm
by Dunharrow
don't particularly like it. I have seen it draw 10+ cards but I have also seen it be vanilla.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Tail Slash
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:44 pm
by 3drinks
Sunday, December 26th, 2021;
Tail Slash
I know, I know, it's not flashy but it is super fight. No crack backs. And instant. As far as fight effects go, this is near the top I'd have to imagine.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Cultivator Colossus
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:56 pm
by Melua
I'd be more interested in this if WOTC didn't keep pushing Green cards so hard. I know most players start by playing Green, but some restraint needs to be shown. It honestly makes playing my Windgrace deck boring as hell.
3drinks wrote: ↑2 years ago
Sunday, December 26th, 2021;
Tail Slash
I know, I know, it's not flashy but it is super fight. No crack backs. And instant. As far as fight effects go, this is near the top I'd have to imagine.
Red usually has better ways to get rid of creatures but it's not bad. It kinda needs a home though as it feels a bit overcosted though, although I'm not sure if a RR cost would be too much. It's not like
Pit Fight is a broken card after all.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Tail Slash
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:45 pm
by The_Hittite
Well if you need a second, worse
Fall of the Hammer...
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Tail Slash
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:26 pm
by Serenade
It works with deathtouch and lifelink, which is okay. I'm probably not using it unless my general has one or both of those.
I'd use
Ram Through, though, if I have a lot of tramplers.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Tail Slash
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:04 pm
by Toshi
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Tail Slash
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:33 pm
by BeneTleilax
This is also worse than
Soul's Fire.
