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I'm probably just adding to what has already been said, but I don't see what DRS adds to the format. It provides main deck grave hate, life gain, ramp, color fixing, and burn in one package, and its only real deck building restriction is to run green or black. It's not as broken in Modern as Uro, but it has the same issue: it has a debatably absurd amount of value for very little opportunity cost. If people want to improve fair decks, we either need stronger answer cards, which raise the power level glass ceiling of new threats that will enter the format, or new synergistic combos need to be introduced to improve (reasonably) fair strategies without introducing cards that are broken in a vacuum. An example of this would be Azcanta + Teferi, Hero of Dominaria: both okay to good on their own, but incredibly powerful in tandem.

"Umezawa's Jitte is too hostile to creature decks"

*laughs in Lava Dart Plague Engineer Lightning Bolt Path to Exile Fatal Push Wrenn and Six Aether Gust Skyclave Apparition Walking Ballista Lurrus of the Dream-Den Abrade Engineered Explosives Anger of the Gods Supreme Verdict ...... What else am I missing? Lightning Helix Brazen Borrower Dismember Bonecrusher Giant Kolaghan's Command and... and... and...

Might be my secret love for Stoneblade, but I'm OK with Jitte. We lack TTN level threats in Modern, our best aggro decks would really question a T2 Jitte into a T3 equip, SFM is easily removed in multiple colors, and we lack FoW to defend SFM and Brainstorm to cheaply mull any equipment drawn. Really does seem safe in Modern and I should probably pick one up just in case.

Side note, I really hope that the quote is from way back when and nothing recent. I still remember when Sword of the Meek was declared as too much of a potential boost to Lantern Control to unban.

if Jitte became legal it would be fine for us. My brother legacy merfolk deck has two, so I will just borrow from him.

A deck running Jitte has creatures in it. Even in a control shell, the pilot has made the decision to employ creature based win conditions. These are fair decks. Jitte isnt helping degenerate strategies that cheat into play cards faster than they were even intended to be played. Even if you hated to play against Jitte way back in the day, if you like a meta with fair strategies you want Jitte back now.

Open the discussion on twitter and lets see where this goes . I would be happy to have jitte back and I play Faeries, the deck that gets absolutely wrecked by one that resolves, but also plays it very well, I am happy to dance around this double edged sword. They wanted to power up white, so thats definitely a way to do it in modern. Honestly I would be excited to see what decks make use of it the best. Id test it in all the creature decks I own tbh

I really really really don't like playing against Jitte, but I'd say unban it and see how it fairs. I'm all for ubanning stuff with the a disclaimer that "it could get banned again if it gets out of hands too fast, so don't waste money on it until it's potentially settled in the meta" kinda thing.

The only consideration I'd have was, would it make Eldrazi Tron better than Green Tron having one or two Jitte in the deck or sideboard for Karn.

Jitte would make SFM less mediocre at least. Jitte definitely was on my "never ever" list for a while but I'm coming back on that. My one gripe now would be that it doesn't really make for such good gameplay with creature vs creature decks, but then again, what creature decks?

I would really like to see some unbans, although right now, Modern actually looks really good.

Simto wrote: ↑

3 years ago

I really really really don't like playing against Jitte, but I'd say unban it and see how it fairs. I'm all for ubanning stuff with the a disclaimer that "it could get banned again if it gets out of hands too fast, so don't waste money on it until it's potentially settled in the meta" kinda thing.

The only consideration I'd have was, would it make Eldrazi Tron better than Green Tron having one or two Jitte in the deck or sideboard for Karn.

This is exactly how I feel.

I really did not enjoy Jitte in Standard, but luckily since I did Combo or Control, it didn't completely devastate me. In Extended, it actually didn't feel broken, but that may be because of the way the meta was. It actually wasn't played much. I remember Zoo had it.

I'll say this much about Jitte. It's a card people have underestimated consistently since its printing.

I like the new tarmogoyf

they finally reused the original art. Liking it as well.

I'm gonna certainly be picking up a lot of the old frame staples now. I'm really tempted to turn my mm goyfs into these ones

Unrelated to the new cards, the whole "Celestial Colonnade is back on the menu" train has me hyped. I sold my copies years ago for like $30ish a piece, and today the alt art foil FNM promos are like $8. Picked up two, along with (surprisingly cheap) Skyclaves, at around the same price for foils. Both arrived flat and non-pringled, so that bodes well. Highly unlikely I'll ever be playing the 4c money pile abominations whenever covid ends, but these seem like easy UWx control staples at a very reasonable price.

cfusionpm wrote: ↑

3 years ago

Unrelated to the new cards, the whole "Celestial Colonnade is back on the menu" train has me hyped. I sold my copies years ago for like $30ish a piece, and today the alt art foil FNM promos are like $8. Picked up two, along with (surprisingly cheap) Skyclaves, at around the same price for foils. Both arrived flat and non-pringled, so that bodes well. Highly unlikely I'll ever be playing the 4c money pile abominations whenever covid ends, but these seem like easy UWx control staples at a very reasonable price.

Wait, Skyclave, the 1WW, exile a perm, foil, for around $8? I saw a buyer on FB offering $12.50 each, so I assumed they were currently at $15 or more. I may try to get some myself.

FoodChainGoblins wrote: ↑

3 years ago

cfusionpm wrote: ↑

3 years ago

Unrelated to the new cards, the whole "Celestial Colonnade is back on the menu" train has me hyped. I sold my copies years ago for like $30ish a piece, and today the alt art foil FNM promos are like $8. Picked up two, along with (surprisingly cheap) Skyclaves, at around the same price for foils. Both arrived flat and non-pringled, so that bodes well. Highly unlikely I'll ever be playing the 4c money pile abominations whenever covid ends, but these seem like easy UWx control staples at a very reasonable price.

Wait, Skyclave, the 1WW, exile a perm, foil, for around $8? I saw a buyer on FB offering $12.50 each, so I assumed they were currently at $15 or more. I may try to get some myself.

Yepperooni.

nice, it's becoming cheaper. And very useful card.

The Fluff wrote: ↑

3 years ago

nice, it's becoming cheaper. And very useful card.

I think it's just a byproduct of non-existent paper play. I'm doing what I (foolishly) did after the Twin ban and picking up "staples" on the cheap, hoping they'll still be relevant (or be relevant again) "soon." (*cries in foil Vendilion Cliques*). Since I'm definitely not investing in "Money Tribal" with W6s and whatever, I figure I'm likely going to play some UWx control or stoneblade pile once I ever get to play in paper, despite having a blinged-out 2018 spec GDS pile. I never did like the play patterns of that.

Man I love Celestial Colonnade. The feeling when you start activating it to attack is so good hehe. You basically declare victory at that moment.

I'd love to see an Esper or UWx Draw go control deck start to take a piece of the modern metagame. Honestly when these style decks are popular and effective I find the format is often in a really nice situation for balance at least in my eyes that is.

Kaya's Guile is a great reason to do Esper. Could even force Esper Charm (even if it's kind of out-classed by Archmage's Charm these days, but could always run a split of both).

I feel my personal qualms with going Esper is the opposed nature of discard vs counter and the downside of Push vs downside of Path.

I think a UW splash black (Guile/Charm) might be more up my alley. But going hard on things like 4x Push, possible discard, and other B-heavy commitments make the manabase clunkier and weakens the shell overall.

I always want Esper to be good since I played Esper Control a lot in Standard when I was getting back into magic. It was some of the most fun times I had playing Magic.
Esper Control in modern just always looks like a little worse than straight blue white, but I always want it to be good hehe.

Ulka wrote: ↑

3 years ago

I'd love to see an Esper or UWx Draw go control deck start to take a piece of the modern metagame. Honestly when these style decks are popular and effective I find the format is often in a really nice situation for balance at least in my eyes that is.

frederico wrote: ↑

3 years ago

Ulka wrote: ↑

3 years ago

I'd love to see an Esper or UWx Draw go control deck start to take a piece of the modern metagame. Honestly when these style decks are popular and effective I find the format is often in a really nice situation for balance at least in my eyes that is.

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I know. I was more just musing on the history of the format rather than just pointing to the current state but yea it makes me happy and I'm not a control player.

Here's an interesting deck - Bant Squirrelblade.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/mu ... ade-modern