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Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:50 pm
by SpicyMuffinz
Here is my current list.
When building a high-power deck, my general philosophy is that if you play good cards, you will win games. Most of the creature choices in the deck (with the exception of the
Artificer's Intuition package) are good cards without Lazav. I don't run many cards that specifically support Lazav outside of Dreadnought, Ginegerbrute, and Vector Asp. Lazav doesn't ask for any specific synergies, just running strong, low CMC creatures is enough to enable it. Lazav's role in the deck is to provide redundancy to my value engines and win conditions, while also being a win condition with Dreadnought.
Like
@materpillar , I don't really like to play infinite combos, just not really my preferred play-style, so this deck isn't truly competitive because of that restriction. I removed the
Displacer Kitten +
Coveted Jewel combo I was running, as fun as that combo was, because it doesn't really utilize Lazav, and I do want Lazav to be important to the deck. After removing that combo though, I am slightly concerned that I may not have enough win conditions. If
Sheoldred, the Apocalypse and
Phyrexian Dreadnought both get exiled, I've probably lost the game.
All three of our lists are crazy different... but its always interesting to compare and bounce ideas off one another.
Edit: Also, if I were to run a combo, I should probably be on
Bolas's Citadel, as I already run
Sensei's Divining Top , and this plays well with Sheoldred.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:49 am
by materpillar
You guys ever consider
Thassa, God of the Sea? I'm going to give her a test. She uber protects lazav, offers card selection and makes him unblockable. She's also great with
Phage the Untouchable ![Sticking Out Tongue :P](./images/smilies/3-tongue-fb.png)
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:17 am
by Toshi
materpillar wrote: ↑1 year ago
You guys ever consider
Thassa, God of the Sea? I'm going to give her a test. She uber protects lazav, offers card selection and makes him unblockable.
I did give her some time in the deck initially, yeah. I am sure she can put in some work in the right list, but didn't really fit mine.
Her - and
Darksteel Myr's - major downside was that she doesn't offer much protection in my meta, as exile removal and force sac are the main threats. Paying for evasion on top feels a little odd when you are already running plenty of evasive Weenies like i do. Scry is pretty neat, but i wish it were surveil, lol.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:28 am
by materpillar
Toshi wrote: ↑1 year ago
Her - and
Darksteel Myr's - major downside was that she doesn't offer much protection in my meta, as exile removal and force sac are the main threats. Paying for evasion on top feels a little odd when you are already running plenty of evasive Weenies like i do. Scry is pretty neat, but I wish it were surveil, lol.
If you don't have devotion (which I don't think I will most of the time) Lazav will turn into a non-creature enchantment (that's indestructible), won't that dodge basically all non-
Farewell removal? Using her is the same mana as turning Lazav into unblockable
Gingerbrute or whatnot. You just can't do it EOT and then untap. If it didn't work out well for you it didn't though. I'm excited to give it a whirl.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 9:22 pm
by materpillar
Been going over my decks today, think I'm going to give
Containment Construct a try over
Slippery Scoundrel.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 10:10 pm
by Toshi
Sounds like a great plan!
Slippery Scoundrel has been a lacklustre
Invisible Stalker anyhow and
Containment Construct has been opening up a lot of dorky lines in my
Gallia of the Endless Dance deck!
In context of my own list, it would be especially neat with
Disciple of Deceit,
Muddle the Mixture and
Thirst for Discovery - on top of the obvious
Whispering Madness/
Windfall/
Jace's Archivist interactions.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:05 am
by materpillar
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:09 am
by Toshi
Oh, for sure!
Considering the cheapest you can get its P/T set is
Nighthowler, going down a pip, being able to enable itself and more is super juicy.
On top of all that, you could transmute
Dimir Infiltrator or
Muddle the Mixture for it!
I will need two Alt Art ones for this deck and my 5C Adventure list!
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:54 am
by Toshi
Honestly, Wilds of Eldraine didn't bring us much when it comes to quantity, but the additions are really, really good in terms of versatility!
Way too often am i milling the interaction i might need and
Picklock Prankster // Free the Fae is just perfect in all aspects for this deck.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:59 pm
by materpillar
Got a game in yesterday.
Lazav, the Multifarious ate a
Wrong Turn. He countered my
Lazotep Plating with
Fierce Guardianship which was some BS. I didn't get Lazav back until turn 9 so I lost. But on turn 9 I cast
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind. Turn him into
Gingerbrute. Move to attacks. Opponent
Disenchants him. Response he's a
Phyrexian Devourer. Stack a bunch of exile triggers.
Lazav, the Multifarious is now
Ashnod, Flesh Mechanist. Triggers resolve,
Lazav, the Multifarious is now a 67/67 and
Disenchant fizzles.
Lazav, the Multifarious is now a
Gingerbrute. 1-shot my opponent.
Opponent: "I can't believe you run bull**** like
Phage the Untouchable in that deck"
Me:
Chef's Kiss
On another note
Ashnod, Flesh Mechanist was insane.
T1
Ashnod, Flesh Mechanist
T2
Butcher Ghoul, sac it for a powerstone
T3 Sac it for another one.
T4
Lesser Masticore, sac it for a powerstone
T5
Lazav, the Multifarious, turn him into a
Butcher Ghoul sac him for a powerstone
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:58 am
by Toshi
Damn, that sounds so sweet and i especially love the Powerstone harvesting line!
Only question i have is how your opponent could
Disenchant your
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind, since
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind retains hexproof. Am i missing information?
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:57 am
by materpillar
Whoops wrong Lazav quoted there. It was my general the whole time.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:19 am
by Toshi
Man, i really gotta update my list soon!
I gotta say
Cruel Somnophage // Can't Wake Up and
The Ancient One were great additions i haven't mentioned yet.
I'm also sure that
Dalek Squadron and
Hunted Bonebrute could do some fun stuff in here.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:07 pm
by materpillar
@Toshi
I played against a bunch of precons with cards that I ignored.
Vashta Nerada seems pretty perfect. Protection, growth and evasion in one little package. Also, I'm jamming
Psychic Frog in here. I haven't gotten any games in with this recently to report though.
Re: Lazav, the Multifarious | Graveyard Shapeshifting Voltron
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:50 am
by Toshi
materpillar wrote: ↑1 week ago
I played against a bunch of precons with cards that I ignored.
That sounds like great fun!
A card i would like to try in such a round would be
Horrid Shadowspinner + a beefy guy in the yard like
The Ancient One or
Hunted Horror, to mess with the trigger.
To be quite honest, i would have to check if the current list on Nexus is even up to date. I barely found the time to update my primer and since this thread doesn't get much traction usually, i have gotten lazy with it...
But since my semi-anually MTG weekend is up i get to play the deck, at least.