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Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:24 pm
by Dunharrow
I think there are so many good disenchant effects that a 3 mana 2/2 that only hits artifacts is just never making the cut. Maybe more in cEDH where there is more fast mana?
I guess you can play in a meta that has a lot of static and winter orbs..
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:06 pm
by pokken
The combination of effects is good but both sides are.regularly dead for me so I rarely play it..
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:22 pm
by 3drinks
Dunharrow wrote: ↑3 years ago
I think there are so many good disenchant effects that a 3 mana 2/2 that only hits artifacts is just never making the cut. Maybe more in cEDH where there is more fast mana?
I guess you can play in a meta that has a lot of static and winter orbs..
You're missing that second line of text. Making all opposing rocks come down tapped is so rough for anyone relying on rocks. But tbh, this should have been
r, not
g.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:03 pm
by TheAmericanSpirit
Mangledad is a solid card. The combination of immediate removal and sustained hate is pretty potent on a fairly efficient body. I dig this card, but agree with 3drinks that the effect should be red not green.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:07 pm
by hyalopterouslemur
I must confess to liking
Kismet/
Frozen Aether and
Blind Obedience more. More "screw you" potential, amd Blind Obedience is also a threat. (Also
Meekstone and
Winter Orb exist..) But hey, this does remove something, and hits mana rocks, eggs, and the like.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:41 am
by Dunharrow
3drinks wrote: ↑3 years ago
Dunharrow wrote: ↑3 years ago
I think there are so many good disenchant effects that a 3 mana 2/2 that only hits artifacts is just never making the cut. Maybe more in cEDH where there is more fast mana?
I guess you can play in a meta that has a lot of static and winter orbs..
You're missing that second line of text. Making all opposing rocks come down tapped is so rough for anyone relying on rocks. But tbh, this should have been
r, not
g.
I didn't miss it. I mentioned Static Orb and Winter orb coming into play tapped. I just don't think it's that relevant that often...
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Rushed Rebirth
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:26 pm
by 3drinks
Sunday, June 13th, 2021;
Rushed Rebirth
Whoa. Well that's pretty good. Great response to removal, can also work when killing opponent creatures. Can't imagine any reason you wouldn't play this, colours permitting.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:32 pm
by 3drinks
Dunharrow wrote: ↑3 years ago
3drinks wrote: ↑3 years ago
Dunharrow wrote: ↑3 years ago
I think there are so many good disenchant effects that a 3 mana 2/2 that only hits artifacts is just never making the cut. Maybe more in cEDH where there is more fast mana?
I guess you can play in a meta that has a lot of static and winter orbs..
You're missing that second line of text. Making all opposing rocks come down tapped is so rough for anyone relying on rocks. But tbh, this should have been
r, not
g.
I didn't miss it. I mentioned Static Orb and Winter orb coming itnto play tapped. I just don't think it's that relevant that often...
You do this text a disservice to look at the corner case interaction and not the larger scope of sticking a one sided
Orb of Dreams for artifacts. Making signets and talismans come tapped, mind stones and sol rings having to wait a turn, taking the haste away from artifact creatures, even providing a certain vulnerability to Divining Top...
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:12 pm
by Dunharrow
3drinks wrote: ↑3 years ago
Dunharrow wrote: ↑3 years ago
3drinks wrote: ↑3 years ago
You're missing that second line of text. Making all opposing rocks come down tapped is so rough for anyone relying on rocks. But tbh, this should have been
r, not
g.
I didn't miss it. I mentioned Static Orb and Winter orb coming itnto play tapped. I just don't think it's that relevant that often...
You do this text a disservice to look at the corner case interaction and not the larger scope of sticking a one sided
Orb of Dreams for artifacts. Making signets and talismans come tapped, mind stones and sol rings having to wait a turn, taking the haste away from artifact creatures, even providing a certain vulnerability to Divining Top...
I just don't think it makes up for not hitting enchantments. unless your meta has a lot of fast mana.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Rushed Rebirth
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:57 am
by hyalopterouslemur
Reminds me of mercenaries, except good because most mercenaries...weren't, even by Masques standards.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Rushed Rebirth
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:02 am
by BeneTleilax
3drinks wrote: ↑3 years ago
Sunday, June 13th, 2021;
Rushed Rebirth
Whoa. Well that's pretty good. Great response to removal, can also work when killing opponent creatures. Can't imagine any reason you wouldn't play this, colours permitting.
Green and black have better creature tutors, and that's really what this is. Cool design though, I can see it being a thematic tutor in the right decks, and I'm all for interesting variants of staples for specific archetypes.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:45 pm
by 3drinks
Monday, June 14th, 2021;
Island Sanctuary|4ed
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:01 pm
by BeneTleilax
Sort of an opt-in cheaper Solitary Confinement.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:21 pm
by Sinis
Monday, June 14th, 2021; Island Sanctuary
Back in the day, I comboed this with
Mystic Decree. Because, reasons.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:17 pm
by pokken
This card is definitely better than you would think based on the cover. It used to dominate because you'd plop down a serra angel and there's not much they could do since nothing really beats it in combat, and they'd just remove anything that did.
Nowadays it's just that most decks that want to attack are full of ground pounders.
Until you run into dragons.dec and what I've found is that dragons.dec is my personal competitive blindspot. Almost all my decks lose really hard to flying 7/7s that kill all your creatures when they attack or etb or whatever.
And that's a reason I would probably not play this these days
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Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:24 pm
by folding_music
got a bunch of fourth edition Island Sanctuaries, tended to play them casually before EDH was a thing combined with
Siren's Call. outmoded now Goad's a thing, sorta.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Manglehorn
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:43 pm
by 3drinks
pokken wrote: ↑3 years ago
This card is definitely better than you would think based on the cover. It used to dominate because you'd plop down a serra angel and there's not much they could do since nothing really beats it in combat, and they'd just remove anything that did.
Nowadays it's just that most decks that want to attack are full of ground pounders.
Until you run into dragons.dec and what I've found is that dragons.dec is my personal competitive blindspot. Almost all my decks lose really hard to flying 7/7s that kill all your creatures when they attack or etb or whatever.
And that's a reason I would probably not play this these days
:
@ me next time. As Kaalia's personal liaison I could have gotten her for you 👀
folding_music wrote: ↑3 years ago
got a bunch of fourth edition Island Sanctuaries, tended to play them casually before EDH was a thing combined with
Siren's Call. outmoded now Goad's a thing, sorta.
Those things are $3 each, you could just eBay them if you're done using them...
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:02 pm
by hyalopterouslemur
Gets even better in multicolor. Once you have a ton of ways to draw, the downside becomes irrelevant.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:27 pm
by onering
Sinis wrote: ↑3 years ago
Monday, June 14th, 2021; Island Sanctuary
Back in the day, I comboed this with
Mystic Decree. Because, reasons.
"back in the day"
You stopped? Its a wombo combo featuring a Homelands card, 10/10 would run again and again.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:12 pm
by Mookie
Island Sanctuary is an alright pillowfort card - sort of a hybrid of
Moat and
Solitary Confinement. Skipping your draw step is a pretty steep cost - it is optional, but still not a thing you want to do without being backed up by a lot of card draw... which you may have available if you're running a bunch of enchantresses or
Zedruu the Greathearted.
Still, it is a bit of a meta call - if your opponents are running lots of flyers, it goes down in value. It doesn't protect planeswalkers, but it does last until your next turn even if it is removed, which is pretty nice.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:54 pm
by RxPhantom
Sinis wrote: ↑3 years ago
Monday, June 14th, 2021; Island Sanctuary
Back in the day, I comboed this with
Mystic Decree. Because, reasons.
In flagrant violation of the rules, I see. You can only have one World enchantment on the board at a time. Your beloved memories are now tainted by my retroactive, decades-old rules lawyering. You're welcome.
EDIT: Witness, Nexus, the dumbest thing I have ever posted. Completely wrong, and made even more lame by a sad attempt at cleverness. Behold, my shame.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:20 pm
by 3drinks
RxPhantom wrote: ↑3 years ago
Sinis wrote: ↑3 years ago
Monday, June 14th, 2021; Island Sanctuary
Back in the day, I comboed this with
Mystic Decree. Because, reasons.
In flagrant violation of the rules, I see. You can only have one World enchantment on the board at a time. Your beloved memories are now tainted by my retroactive, decades-old rules lawyering. You're welcome.
Island Sanctuary isn't a world enchantment though?
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:00 am
by RxPhantom
3drinks wrote: ↑3 years ago
RxPhantom wrote: ↑3 years ago
Sinis wrote: ↑3 years ago
Back in the day, I comboed this with
Mystic Decree. Because, reasons.
In flagrant violation of the rules, I see. You can only have one World enchantment on the board at a time. Your beloved memories are now tainted by my retroactive, decades-old rules lawyering. You're welcome.
Island Sanctuary isn't a world enchantment though?
Oh my gosh I thought it was. I'm gonna leave it as a shrine to my dumbassery though. What was I thinking of?
Serra Aviary, maybe? lol
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:42 am
by 3drinks
RxPhantom wrote: ↑3 years ago
3drinks wrote: ↑3 years ago
RxPhantom wrote: ↑3 years ago
In flagrant violation of the rules, I see. You can only have one World enchantment on the board at a time. Your beloved memories are now tainted by my retroactive, decades-old rules lawyering. You're welcome.
Island Sanctuary isn't a world enchantment though?
Oh my gosh I thought it was. I'm gonna leave it as a shrine to my dumbassery though. What was I thinking of?
Serra Aviary, maybe? lol
Maybe you were thinking of
Chaosphere ...
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Island Sanctuary
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:44 am
by knight_seb
I like
Island Sanctuary. As someone said it before, if you can manage to draw cards with some other effect, the downside is irrelevant and it become really annoying for your opponents.
I definetely add it to my want list
