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Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:03 pm
by Rumpy5897
DirkGently wrote:
1 year ago
I didn't even notice Rhuk, Hexgold Nabber get spoiled, but rarely have I been so baffled about an ability. In a world where Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist why would anyone want to play Rhuk? What are you supposed to do, pre-equip to an Ornithopter to prepare for him entering the battlefield? Bro he costs 3 lol, why would you need to prepare?
As is, Rhuk is a niche fallback piece that soaks up equips from things that die in a non-wipe manner. A potential placeholder defender of your castle as your voltron commander got whacked and you need to redeploy/reequip. Rhuk would have a cool application if there were equips that rewarded you for being put on or unequipped, but as is the only triggers of that nature kill off the creature :P This doesn't strike me as likely design space to explore, R&D has gone on record that equipment leads to samey game actions even without this extra carrot. But hey, maybe one day.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:16 am
by FoxHybrid
duducrash wrote:
1 year ago
Guys, help me english isn't my first language. Migloz, Maze Crusher is Migloz some thing that crushes in a maze or that crushes mazes? I'm dissapointed it doesnt crush Maze's end :(
After seeing some more flavor text from the set, I believe the maze in Migloz's name is in reference to the Hunter's Maze (I may be slightly off base with the name, but I know it ends in maze), where the green phyrexians associated with Vorinclex hang out. He crushes things in a maze.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:29 am
by kraus911
Makes me wish for a land that was "Maze of Vorinclex" that removed a creature from combat and made them fight a random creature on the battlefield. Maze of Ith, but with violence!

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:30 pm
by Serenade
Ovika, Enigma Goliath feels like a better Prismari general than what we have, and I will run it as such.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:38 pm
by Dunadain
kraus911 wrote:
1 year ago
Makes me wish for a land that was "Maze of Vorinclex" that removed a creature from combat and made them fight a random creature on the battlefield. Maze of Ith, but with violence!
That actually sounds sick.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:45 pm
by folding_music
hmmmm
Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler in b/g Erinis, Gloom Stalker or whatever Windgrace deck, sifting yr deck for and reviving Dawnstrider or Priest of Forgotten Gods... giggle giggle giggle. slots right in alongside Nissa of Shadowed Boughs

this is a great planeswalker, terse abilities, WAR-style ability which is fairly relevant, previous tribal boredom lord recovered into something with more utility, ten out of ten design. hope it's gnot broken in that Lurrus type way

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:53 pm
by Serenade
I also just like the idea of a PW socking creatures in the face.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:06 pm
by duducrash
I have a feeling this is a stroooong set and maybe some playables will be ignored and then shoot up in price like a rocket. I'll have to keep an eye on constructed results so I don't miss something like Ledger Shredder . Thankfully I noticed Fable of the Mirror-Breaker // Reflection of Kiki-Jiki before the mega spike.

But for now here is my list of cards I'll either buy or try to trade for


Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:20 pm
by RedCheese
Mondrak, Glory Dominus , Anointed Procession with legs, is the card to keep an eye on for me. WIll need to look more at the set to see what to pick up because theres a lot of goodies

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:50 pm
by Lifeless
This one does seem like it has an above average number of strong cards for a Standard set. That doesn't always translate into high values but I am considering picking up some of the cards sooner than I usually would.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:26 pm
by folding_music
set is really good. "phyrexian" creature type is awful, particularly cos they didn't print anything that targets phyrexians

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:30 pm
by duducrash
I think Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler is pretty neat in 60 card formats, it enables Fiend Artisan and Prime Speaker Vannifar in unfair strategies will be effectivey be 2 for 1 in fair low curve elf decks with the minus ability. And with the density of dorks they run it coudo enable biiig turns thanks to the pseudo haste , it trully might be a sleeper hit

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:23 pm
by Wallycaine
folding_music wrote:
1 year ago
set is really good. "phyrexian" creature type is awful, particularly cos they didn't print anything that targets phyrexians
It's been mentioned that it's due to the density of phyrexians in this set. If they'd printed a creature with "Phyrexians creatures you control get +1/+1", they'd have to cost it the same as "Creatures you control get +1/+1" for this set. Something like 80% of creatures have the Phyrexian type in this. Personally, I'd expect phyrexian tribal/hate to be in the next set, where it can be costed appropriately as a tribal element, but still have all the phyrexians from this set to interact with in larger formats.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:27 pm
by Phoenixlance
We have started getting first looks at some of the cards in March of the Machine, courtesy of a panel at PT Philadelphia.

I really love the idea of having character team-ups where its one card with a fusion of sorts of different legends and their abilities. Planechase being an active part of the new Precons is cool as well.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:38 pm
by DirkGently
folding_music wrote:
1 year ago
set is really good. "phyrexian" creature type is awful, particularly cos they didn't print anything that targets phyrexians
Remember when most creature types were just there for flavor, and we didn't need to have a tribal deck for literally every single type to ever exist?

Phyrexian farm remembers.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:49 pm
by toctheyounger
DirkGently wrote:
1 year ago
folding_music wrote:
1 year ago
set is really good. "phyrexian" creature type is awful, particularly cos they didn't print anything that targets phyrexians
Remember when most creature types were just there for flavor, and we didn't need to have a tribal deck for literally every single type to ever exist?

Phyrexian farm remembers.
Normally I think your tribal distaste is a little overwrought, purely because some flavors lend themselves to it. Zombies, elves, goblins, all of them kind of lean into being tribal thematically anyway. But I do think we're definitely at the point where all of the requisite tribal tribes are represented, we could 100% stop now and not jump the shark.

I blame MaRo and his %$#%$#% squirrel fetish; if they can be a legitimate tribe damn near anything can.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:16 pm
by Mookie
New set came out last week, which means it's time for more spoilers, I guess? Still, I'm a fan of Planechase, so nice to see it returning in March of the Machine.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:00 pm
by Guardman
I can't tell you how big of a smile I had when I saw Yargle and Multani. It's simple, amazing, and combo's with Giant Growth to one shot opponents.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:14 pm
by toctheyounger
Holy crap, Drana and Linvana is nuts. What a great card.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:59 pm
by Cyberium
Mookie wrote:
1 year ago
Omnath, Locus of All looks like a strong option for '3C matters' decks, somewhat comparable to Niv-Mizzet Reborn. Or just save up mana for the juiciest Torment of Hailfire of all time.
Three or more colored mana symbol, doesn't have to be three colors. It can be GGG if needed be.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:05 pm
by Avacyn Believer
I kind of like the cards of two Legends, but sheesh, does everything and everyone have to be Phyrexian. They are sure not holding back on turning all the popular planes.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:26 pm
by TheGildedGoose
Oh, lord. Is there going to be a Phyrexian Erebos?

EDIT: Thalia and The Gitrog Monster is the Abzan commander of my dreams.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:33 pm
by toctheyounger
TheGildedGoose wrote:
1 year ago
Oh, lord. Is there going to be a Phyrexian Erebos?
If I had to guess based on last known lore I'd say no. Heliod was the god on Theros most prone to choking on his own hubris having murdered Elspeth out of jealousy for her adoration, and thus is probably the most easily turned.

Still you never know.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:34 pm
by TheGildedGoose
toctheyounger wrote:
1 year ago
TheGildedGoose wrote:
1 year ago
Oh, lord. Is there going to be a Phyrexian Erebos?
If I had to guess based on last known lore I'd say no. Heliod was the god on Theros most prone to choking on his own hubris having murdered Elspeth out of jealousy for her adoration, and thus is probably the most easily turned.

Still you never know.
Yeah, it's my understanding that Erebos just wants to vibe.

Re: Unreleased and New Card Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:36 pm
by RedCheese
SO much crazy stuff. Multani + Yargle killed me