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Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Tamiyo, Field Researcher
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:39 pm
by toctheyounger
Yeah, it's pretty much a win con for Atraxa on it's own.
Doubling Season,
Pir, Imaginative Rascal, proliferate etc, and all of a sudden the game is on easy mode.
Outside of that it's decent enough value, although that ult is scary enough that I wouldn't expect it to last on the table long.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Tamiyo, Field Researcher
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:54 pm
by Sinis
SocorroTortoise wrote: ↑4 years ago
Sinis wrote: ↑4 years ago
And yet, I rarely play Bant, or a deck that wants this, so my copy gathers dust.
Pretty much where I sit on the card. I like it a lot and almost never run a deck where it would fit. I'll put together bant tokens or something someday, mostly to try and force this and
Huatli, Radiant Champion. Maybe
Chulane, Teller of Tales once ELD drops would be a good fit?
Maybe Chulane! I was thinking perhaps
Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa along with a partner that makes Bant (Thrasios is the low-hanging fruit, but Ishai has evasion). But, I guess I don't find Bant very inspiring (Chulane is no exception to that, either).
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:18 am
by 3drinks
Thursday, September 5th, 2019;
Inferno
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:33 am
by 75chan
Oh,
Mairsil, the Pretender has a long history eh. Instant speed and having a the dark printing is cute, but I can't see myself running this over something that's XR for X damage (like
Rolling Earthquake,
Earthquake,
Subterranean Tremors) or XRR for X damage with upside (
Fault Line,
Magmaquake,
Starstorm).
At least it hits flyers though, but I don't see that upside being enough to run it. Maybe mono-red boardwipe tribal wants it, incase that decks is a thing, or some 93/94 theme deck.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:15 am
by Rumpy5897
I ran this for a while in my
Iroas because instant speed damage wipe. It wasn't too shabby, but it won't cut it in most lists in a
Blasphemous Act world. I'd jam
Chain Reaction before this in most lists too.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:25 am
by Serpent_Steve
It's not a bad card it just looks like to me one I could overlook for better types of removal.
Sweet artwork though.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:15 pm
by Sinis
3drinks wrote: ↑4 years ago
Thursday, September 5th, 2019; Inferno
Melting candle dude!
I've played this on-and-off in decks that lack black or white. Weirdly, the 7 cmc cost is in line with cards that have similar functionality but were printed much later; it's roughly the same as
Fated Retribution and
Rout with its additional cost.
I think it has been mostly outpowered over the years, but, I have a fondness for it.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:30 pm
by Mookie
My preferred version of
Inferno is
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage. 7 mana is a lot for a board wipe, and other, better options exist, such as
Starstorm,
Chain Reaction, and
Blasphemous Act. Inferno does have the ability to also hit players, but if you really care about that, I think I would go with
Earthquake (or the almost-strictly-better
Rolling Earthquake, if you have access to it).
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:40 pm
by SocorroTortoise
Yep. I've basically cast this card many, many times but I've never actually included a copy in a deck.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:57 pm
by hyalopterouslemur
SocorroTortoise wrote: ↑4 years ago
Yep. I've basically cast this card many, many times but I've never actually included a copy in a deck.
The hottest thing is, you can give her lifelink and protection from red/indestructible/whatever pretty easily. If you have enough mana, you can use her with
Glory to save all your creatures. (But if you have that kind of mana, the game's usually almost over.) Another option is to use
Rootborn Defenses.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:23 pm
by lyonhaert
hyalopterouslemur wrote: ↑4 years ago
SocorroTortoise wrote: ↑4 years ago
Yep. I've basically cast this card many, many times but I've never actually included a copy in a deck.
The hottest thing is, you can give her lifelink and protection from red/indestructible/whatever pretty easily. If you have enough mana, you can use her with
Glory to save all your creatures. (But if you have that kind of mana, the game's usually almost over.) Another option is to use
Rootborn Defenses.
Something tells me he already uses lifelink/protection and that white cards aren't an option.
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Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:38 pm
by SocorroTortoise
lyonhaert wrote: ↑4 years ago
Something tells me he already uses lifelink/protection and that white cards aren't an option.
It's true. I may have played a Jaya deck a couple times in my MTG career.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Inferno
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:00 pm
by materpillar
I came here to say this. Inferno is much better when it has
lifelink,
is repeatable,
doesn't actually cost you a card.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Savageborn Hydra
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:43 am
by 3drinks
Friday, September 6th, 2019;
Savageborn Hydra
I always liked this guy. Sizable threat that both scales to where ever your curve is weak, and acts as a mana sink to get massive. Would look a lot more threatening with trample though.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Savageborn Hydra
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:30 pm
by Serpent_Steve
Like the card and ability. Hate that the ability can only be accessed as a sorcery. Really weakens it to me.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Savageborn Hydra
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:54 pm
by Sinis
3drinks wrote: ↑4 years ago
Friday, September 6th, 2019; Savageborn Hydra
I think the lack of evasion always pushed this out of my decks. I like everything about it, except that. I can even live with the sorcery speed activation to make it stronger.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Savageborn Hydra
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:32 pm
by hyalopterouslemur
I've started calling that ability
regimen. On a creature, it's awesome. It kinda sucks as an aura, though. (Not as bad as
Torture, but still...)
The lack of evasion or even trample is the biggest issue. Basically, you need
Brawn or some other way to grant trample. The good news is, there are plenty of ways to do just that. Alternately, you can grant flying; in Gruul colors, there are fewer ways to do that, so you're probably relying on artifacts. Or if you're also in white or blue. Or just use something like
Whispersilk Cloak.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Savageborn Hydra
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:47 pm
by Mookie
Savageborn Hydra is scary beater and mana sink. Sorcery speed activated ability and no evasion makes it a lot weaker though. Seems like it might be good if you have a consistent way to grant it trample and/or haste - maybe in a
Xenagos, God of Revels deck?
I think that
Managorger Hydra and
Taurean Mauler are often going to be better creatures in the 'cheap hydra that grows really big' category. They are slower though - you won't get a giant double-striking threat the turn you play them.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Nature's Revolt
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:15 am
by 3drinks
Saturday, September 7th, 2019;
Nature's Revolt
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Nature's Revolt
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:08 pm
by Serenade
Fun with Grismold?
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Nature's Revolt
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:14 pm
by 3drinks
I prefer
Natural Affinity to this.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Nature's Revolt
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:17 pm
by BeneTleilax
For when you want to be a dick with
Massacre Wurm, but not enough to sell a kidney for
Living Plane.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Nature's Revolt
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:57 pm
by Sinis
Let's not pretend that
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite isn't the *real* tech for Nature's Revolt.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Nature's Revolt
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:37 pm
by hyalopterouslemur
Natural Affinity is cheaper and (with
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite) a one-sided
Armageddon).
This is (again, with Elesh Norn) a huge middle finger to the whole table.
In other news, people who complain about land destruction are still uncreative.
[mention]Serenade[/mention] How is this fun with Grismold? The lands aren't tokens.
Re: [mtgnexus] Random Card of the Day - Nature's Revolt
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:33 pm
by Mookie
The obvious usage for
Nature's Revolt is to make MLD easier - works with Elesh Norn,
Plague Wind, Massacre Wurm, and others. Or just cast
Wrath of God and let the world burn. Alternatively, if you really don't want a control deck to cast a wrath effect, turning their lands into creatures could ward that off.
Another usage is as a combo piece - there are a lot of ways to untap all your creatures, including
Aggravated Assault,
Intruder Alarm,
Benefactor's Draught,
Village Bell-Ringer, and others. At that point, all these effects become rituals, with some just trivially going infinite.
It also functions as a
Kismet effect, since lands being creatures means they are affected by summoning sickness. This can be pretty annoying.
Sylvan Advocate is a solid anthem for land creatures, while
Terra Eternal makes them indestructible.