Re: Marchesa, Rose Wins
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:15 am
That price tag, though. I think Fetches are cheaper and they would probably improve the deck so much more than Bitterblossom.
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That price tag, though. I think Fetches are cheaper and they would probably improve the deck so much more than Bitterblossom.
Yeah, Sword of Truth and Justice is too slow for my build but don't let that stop you in a more classic midrange build. The issue I have is that is a 5 mana investment that can be removed and suddenly my tempo strategy of pure Aggro falls apart. I can't risk that. Also, look at other cards I've cut because they put insufficient pressure on the board: Necropotence, Sadistic Hypnotist, Rhystic Study and Kokusho, the Evening Star. Compare them to the Sword and the Sword is sorely lacking; if I was forced to put one of these cards back into the deck the Sword would be dead last. But again, I'm doing something unusual with my Marchesa, Sword would probably be fine in a casual midrange build.DaButtshark wrote: ↑3 years agoThe answer is probably "too slow" but have you ever contemplated Sword of Truth and Justice? It comes down the turn after marchesa, protects against the 2 most problematic removal colors for the deck, and has the ability to place counters on dudes and grow your board. The trigger is admittedly way worse post-damage, but still advances the board state for the following turn and might synergize with un-hasted dudes.
Another card I'm curious about is Zurzoth, Chaos Rider. It's probably bad, but I think Marchesa may be slightly more resilient to the random discard than most decks and the pinging army is maybe okay.
I'm a complete Marchesa scrub so I might be overlooking key problems, I was just wondering what your thoughts were.
The deck's name borrows from 'Red Deck Wins' which isn't something you can normally do in EDH. I am leveraging Marchesa's absolutely broken ability to make a weenie rush work. This means I don't have mana open to play Liliana's Standard Bearer on a whim, I did pick up a copy but I think I like my current draw suite much more. My draw suite is currently Benthic Biomancer, Sygg, River Cutthroat, Mindblade Render, Grim Haruspex, Midnight Reaper, Nikara, Lair Scavenger, Sage of Fables and Yawgmoth, Thran Physician. The Standard Bearer doesn't match up to any of these; I find anything with lower CMC is valued for its curve, Yawgmoth is absolutely insane at 4 CMC and every other draw option at parity does the job or better.DizzCompleat wrote: ↑3 years agoI'm trying out your build of her atm. I was originally going to go with artifacts but it uses so many cards from my Prossh deck and I don't really want to pick up doubles atm. That being said, I am testing a really similar build.
Thoughts on:
Liliana's standard bearer More Draw
Chasm Skulker More dudes when he dies
Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch Haste
Flayer of the hatebound more dmg
legion warboss more dudes
River Kelpie more draw
Impact Tremors more dmg
Herald of Secret Dreams unblockable
Goblin War Drums like the wolf dude
While the cards trigger only once for any number of creatures coming out of the yard at once, Marchesa's trigger doesn't bring back all the creatures that died at the same time--you get a separate trigger for each creature, so that's an independent trigger for Tormod or Tomb.
I'm a stickler for curve but that especially applies for aggro decks. You might be midrange but you follow the same path, so I'd suggest bumping up your 3 drops and cutting 4 drops. Think of it this way, between all of your 4 drops, when would you play those against Marchesa?ElevatorDreams wrote: ↑3 years agoHello, first time poster here for this deck. I have been playing Marchesa for about 5 years and have mostly organically grown my deck thus it looks in my opinion not too similar to other Marchesa decks I find. What cards should I REALLY consider adding that are not on my list? Any advice is appreciated. I am playing the deck as mainly a mid-range aggro deck. My list is below.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/26-10-16-LLw-marchesa/
Oh damn, that's a sexy card. Though as usual, I have no clue what to axe - the first analog I thought of is Metallic Mimic but surely that can't be the correct call.plushpenguin wrote: ↑3 years agoWho needs clones to protect your commander when you can run Myr Scrapling?